From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,baaf5f793d03d420 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fc89c,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc89c,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,6154de2e240de72a X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public From: JYoungman@vggas.com (James Youngman) Subject: Re: What's the best language to start with? [was: Re: Should I learn C or Pascal?] Date: 1996/07/31 Message-ID: <4tnhgb$5ln@halon.vggas.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 171246220 references: <01bb73e3.1c6a0060$6bf467ce@dave.iceslimited.com> <1996Jul20.124025.122789@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> <01bb7b06$311fabc0$87ee6fce@timpent.airshields.com> <31FBC584.4188@ivic.qc.ca> <01bb7da2$6c505ac0$96ee6fcf@timhome2> content-type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII organization: VG Gas Analysis Systems mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-07-31T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article , arra@inmet.com says... > >In article <01bb7da2$6c505ac0$96ee6fcf@timhome2>, "Tim Behrendsen" wrote: >. >>The most important thing any student can learn is the stripping away >>of the shroud of abstractions, and seeing the simplicity of what's >>really underneath. Once they get that, all the rest of it comes naturally. >> > >I can see both sides of this issue: the importance of understanding >abstractions, and the importance of understanding what is underneath. >I think that a programmer needs to have a model of how a computation occurs in >order to understand issues such as time and space efficiency of the >computation. This IMHO makes Knuth's "The Art Of Computer Programming" indispansable even now. He teaches many algorighms but talks __all the way through__ about the machanics of the machine. He shows the student the wood and the trees simultaneously.