From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1696ae,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gid1696ae,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,baaf5f793d03d420 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 10d15b,a3dc46d3c9254fe3 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d15b,public X-Google-Thread: fc89c,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc89c,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,6154de2e240de72a X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public From: patrick@broadvision.com (Patrick Horgan) Subject: Re: Should I learn C or Pascal? Date: 1996/07/31 Message-ID: <4tm8ja$gok@ns.broadvision.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 171158373 references: organization: The quite unorganized Patrick reply-to: patrick@broadvision.com newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.unix.programmer,comp.dos.programmer,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.cobol Date: 1996-07-31T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article , dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes: > Tim Oxler quoted: > > Sentry Market Research surveyed 700 IS mangers what language they used > for client/server application development: > > Visual Basic 23% > Cobol 21% > C++ 18% > C 15% > > and note that client server applications probably have a lower percentage > of COBOL than all applications, because there are still lots of > traditional batch programs being generated in IS shops in COBOL. > Most of us don't work in IS shops though...it's a very different market than the kind of development environment you find in a software shop. Those numbers are completely inapplicable to the workplaces most of us live in. Out here in Silicon Valley it's almost impossible to get a job without C++. I've been involved in several companies with the interviewing/hiring process, (cause I do a good job of finding out how much air is in a resume;) and you don't even get in the door without C++ on your resume. You don't get called back for a second interview unless you can demonstrate C++ ability. Note that this is not a comment on C++ as a good/poor language for learning/ object-oriented-programming/life. Just a note on industry practice. Some of the defense contractors out here are using Ada, and others still use C, and a few use Cobol, but you really limit your market with those. Defense contractors don't pay nearly as well as the rest of the market either. (So where ARE all those tax dollars going?) -- Patrick J. Horgan patrick@broadvision.com Have horse will ride. Opinions mine, not my employer's except by most bizarre coincidence.