From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,3aad2600dfe8f337 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fef06,3aad2600dfe8f337 X-Google-Attributes: gidfef06,public X-Google-Thread: 111d6b,3aad2600dfe8f337 X-Google-Attributes: gid111d6b,public X-Google-Thread: f753e,3aad2600dfe8f337 X-Google-Attributes: gidf753e,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,3aad2600dfe8f337 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,3aad2600dfe8f337 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,3aad2600dfe8f337 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 10b276,3aad2600dfe8f337 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b276,public From: crocker@tamarin.cig.mot.com (Ron Crocker) Subject: Re: WHERE ARE ALL THE OT EXPERTS??? Date: 1996/07/25 Message-ID: <4t8ci3$fno@trotsky.cig.mot.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 170175453 references: <4t6hk2$cek@chinx10.thoughtport.net> <31F6FC7E.7179@interaccess.com> <31F70013.7F13@online.no> organization: Cellular Infrastructure Group, Motorola newsgroups: comp.object,comp.object.corba,comp.object.logic,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++.leda,comp.lang.java.misc,comp.lang.javascript,comp.lang.objective-c,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.programming,comp.lang.java Date: 1996-07-25T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <31F70013.7F13@online.no>, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: >Second, I believe only managers are interested >in "Class-Responsibility-Collaborator" cards -- fancy acronym, which >they can impress other (low-level) managers with, but (1) it's so >trivial as to be completely useless, and (2) it's *worse* than useless >because it's a completely action-centered approach. Urgh. 1) Why? Simple metaphors are often powerful. 2) Define "action-centered" in this context. I don't understand what you're trying to tell me. What is the alternative ("passive-centered" :-)? -- Ron Crocker Motorola Cellular Infrastructure Group (847) 632-4752 [FAX: (847) 632-6064] crocker@mot.com