From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,baaf5f793d03d420 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fc89c,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc89c,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,6154de2e240de72a X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 123b8d,79cbfdf4caf8a870 X-Google-Attributes: gid123b8d,public From: z007400b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us (Ralph Silverman) Subject: Re: Should I learn C or Pascal? Date: 1996/07/22 Message-ID: <4t0lcp$p9f@nntp.seflin.lib.fl.us>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 170053457 references: <4rs76l$aqd@ccshst05.uoguelph.ca> <4sdlco$rtl@nntp.seflin.lib.fl.us> <4sf9e7$kl7@news.jump.net> <01bb74ac$b7aa7860$7b91f780@deangulo> <01bb7591$83087d60$87ee6fce@timpent.airshields.com> followup-to: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.unix.programmer,comp.os.dos.programmer,comp.lang.ada organization: SEFLIN Free-Net - Broward newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.unix.programmer,comp.os.dos.programmer,comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-07-22T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: johnf (johnf@nando.com) wrote: : In article <01bb7591$83087d60$87ee6fce@timpent.airshields.com>, "Tim : Behrendsen" wrote: : >Carlos DeAngulo wrote in article : ><01bb74ac$b7aa7860$7b91f780@deangulo>... : >> You should definitely learn C/C++. The business world today uses C++ as : >its : >> power language to develop the finest applications. Don't let anyone guide : >> you wrong. : > : >Not to start a flame war on C++, but all you newbie programmers : >out there, don't believe everything you hear about C++. Object : >oriented programming has a lot of good concepts, but C++ is a bad : >implementation of them. Not that you shouldn't learn it, but : >don't think it's the ultimate expression of what OOP is all about. : > : >C++: The PL/I of the 90s. : OK : I am one of these newbies. : I haven't programmed anything, ever, with any language. : I am currently learning C with the help of Dave Mark (Learn C on Mac) as : my baptism into programming. : So, I am I only learning C, and not "how to program"? I don't understand : how the two can be exclusive. : How does one learn how to be a "Good Programmer" without picking a : language to learn first, learning it well, then learning others as they : interest you? : I am not trying to be a wise guy, just a guy who can learn to program well : enough to get out of his crappy job and into this (for me) exciting field : as a career. : I don't expect to start as the Sr. Developer on some project, I will : happily slog it out in the trenches and pay my dues, just explain to me : how to get there... : Thank you, : Johnf : -- : johnf@nando.com : Go Falcons -- **************begin r.s. response**************** poster admits to being inexperienced but manifests great common sense and good intelligence... the question is... is this adequate anymore... ? the sense of frustration manifested is on the mark... what unseen and unadmitted factors are in operation here??? **************end r.s. response****************** Ralph Silverman z007400b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us