From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1696ae,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gid1696ae,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,baaf5f793d03d420 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,6154de2e240de72a X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: steidl@centuryinter.net Subject: Re: Should I learn C or Pascal? Date: 1996/07/20 Message-ID: <4sraag$4bf@news.ld.centuryinter.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 169867532 references: <4rs76l$aqd@ccshst05.uoguelph.ca> <4sdlco$rtl@nntp.seflin.lib.fl.us> <4sf9e7$kl7@news.jump.net> <01bb74ac$b7aa7860$7b91f780@deangulo> <01bb7588$236982e0$7b91f780@deangulo> organization: Century Internet reply-to: steidl@centuryinter.net newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.dos.programmer,comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-07-20T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In <01bb7588$236982e0$7b91f780@deangulo>, "Carlos DeAngulo" writes: >Robert Dewar wrote in article >... >> Carlos says >> >> "You should definitely learn C/C++. The business world today uses C++ as >its >> power language to develop the finest applications. Don't let anyone guide >> you wrong." >> >> Well I would say Carlos gives good advice (don't let anyone guide you >wrong) >> and you can start by not letting Carlos guide you wrong. >> >> First, the business world uses many languages -- even today far more >programs >> are written in COBOL than in C and C++ combined by a very large margin. >It is >> true that a segment of the technical engineering and software devlopment >> market uses C and C++ heavily today, but who knows what they may be using >> tomorrow. Don't concentrate on learning languages, concentrate on >learning >> how to program. >> >When I say business world I mean the working world. The question was >whether to learn C or Pascal. All you have to do is pick up any newspaper >anywhere in the country and see how many jobs are offered for Pascal >programmers, and compare it to how many jobs are offered to C/C++ >programmers. If you spend your time learning Pascal, that's all you will >end up doing... spending your time. Pick up a real language, don't waste >your time on other ones. OK, so your point is that we all need to program in C/C++ - we don't really have a choice because that's where the jobs are. >And about your COBOL remark... The only reason COBOL is still alive in the [Reasons for COBOL's continue existence snipped] >Fortunatelly we as programmers have the choice of what environment we want >to spend our time in. Oh, but Carlos, poor little me is confused. Now you say we have a choice? >If you want to spend your time working on a dinosaur >language like COBOL, or if you want to spend your time on C++ which is the >language that most of the software development corporations in the world >are using. If it isn't obvious how easy the decision is to go with C++ over >COBOL and Pascal then your bank account will show the error you made! Robert never said the person should learn COBOL, and he certainly never said the person should learn COBOL to the exclusion of all else. He just said the person should learn "programming", and that C/C++ is neither the only language used, nor is it the last word on programming. You seemed to react quite unreasonably and vehemently to the mere *mention* of COBOL. To this I just have one thing to say: COBOL COBOL COBO COBOL C CO C C L C L C L C CO C C L COBOL C L C CO C C L C L C L C COBOL COBOL COBO COBOL COBOL CO :-) -Jeff steidl@centuryinter.net - http://www.dont.i.wish.com/ All opinions are my own, and are subject to change without notice.