From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,3b4d948be25ba8c4 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: James E. Hopper Subject: Re: ez2load helping Ada Date: 1996/07/13 Message-ID: <4s8nje$ctp@eri1.erinet.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 168212057 distribution: world references: <009A53B0E71F30C3.8AB2@smcsr3.smcs.se.baesema.co.uk> content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 x-xxmessage-id: organization: Personal mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-07-13T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <009A53B0E71F30C3.8AB2@smcsr3.smcs.se.baesema.co.uk> , Chris.Morgan@BAESEMA.CO.UK writes: > I have been spending some time handing out copies of the EZ2LOAD package >assembled by Prof Mike Feldman and co. I just want to say that, now this >version includes tasking, it is really starting to attract serious attention. >Ironically this GNAT port runnning on perhaps the worst operating of all the >ones it is ported to, is one of the most important. Important that is for >helping the spread of Ada into grass-roots/home computing. It gives Ada a >chance to win the hearts and minds of the young people who will be building the >big systems in the 21st century. i agree getting down to the home machine level is where the hearts and minds are won. i seldom get real serious about something i cant use at my home computer. i didnt get serious about learning Ada till meridian ada for the mac came out. until then i managed an ada project by writing my stuff in pascal and having it translated by the coders ;-) (that was a LONG time ago) i think the new gnat-mac will also help. right now machten is a big cost item but we are going to be showing in august at macworld with tenon a new machten development system featuring ada which will be cost comparable with codewarror mpw etc [including student discounts] tasking is pretty much working (a few bugs yet to work out but close). the mac world will be interesting cause a lot of the mac developers started out in pascal and they are still resisting c++ and even a lot of them doing c++ wish for an alternative. i am hoping we can position ada as pascal++ ;-) its going to be a while before its as slick as codewarrior but all the tools are there to build a codewarrior style IDE in ada now. we have also had some success getting interest in mac tools developers. the publishers of the best of the mac text editors is going to add emacs adamode style support for ada 95 to his product soon. i got an interesting note from a commercial company which is interested in switching to Ada and now that there is a mac compiler they are experimenting with it on their machines. also we are able to build standalone mac OS application that do not require machten, see ftp.cs.nyu.edu in /pub/mac/powermac for examples shell.bin, hello.bin, sillyballs.bin. these are powermac only and you have to decode them with macbinary when you download them (most mac tools support this as part of the download)/ shell and sillyballs are standard mac development ssytem demos that are used to demo their mac support. these demos talk about gnat and i hope tweek peoples interests in Ada. Oh and we have a VERY friendly and pretty installer as well like ezload, but we still have to work on an ide. i am afraid that will have to be a volunteer effort for the future. best jim