From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-11 23:22:49 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!enews.sgi.com!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!newshub1.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au!news1.belrs1.nsw.optushome.com.au.POSTED!not-for-mail From: raj Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.functional Subject: Re: How a modern programming language could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack. Message-ID: <4s7cnt4qpv0filvqpl7notd1nfrid3sej0@4ax.com> References: <3B6555ED.9B0B0420@sneakemail.com> <87n15lxzzv.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <3B672322.B5EA1B66@home.com> <3B6FFC92.C252D0F2@lmf.ericsson.se> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 06:22:38 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.164.144.2 X-Complaints-To: abuse@optushome.com.au X-Trace: news1.belrs1.nsw.optushome.com.au 997597358 203.164.144.2 (Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:22:38 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:22:38 EST Organization: @Home Network Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:11808 comp.lang.c:73720 comp.lang.c++:81868 comp.lang.functional:7484 Date: 2001-08-12T06:22:38+00:00 List-Id: > >But a lot of "professional" (what does that mean? paid? certified? >member of the ACM? competent? my friends?) people get to write in >C. And I've seen them not even use ANSI function prototypes .. > >I would have thought a professional woodworker who chose to use a >circular saw without the guard wouldn't be so much professional as >foolish .. The problem is made worse when one considers that much of the code in programs we use everyday ( I think of sendmail , perl and apache ) was written by enthusiastic amateurs.