From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,e29c511c2b08561c X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Michael Levasseur Subject: Re: Is the "Ada mandate" being reconsidered? Date: 1996/06/13 Message-ID: <4ppb89$gbq@gde.GDEsystems.COM>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 159997405 references: <4mq7mg$8hs@jake.probe.net> <4peu0v$rfq@news15.erols.com> <1996Jun10.114827.26046@relay.nswc.navy.mil> <4pk5sm$i7k@gde.GDEsystems.COM> <31BEC408.2781E494@escmail.orl.mmc.com> content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: GDE Systems Inc. x-url: news:31BEC408.2781E494@escmail.orl.mmc.com mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: comp.lang.ada x-mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3 sun4m) Date: 1996-06-13T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Theodore E. Dennison wrote: > I have recently been directly involved in a DoD effort using large > amounts of COTS hardware and software, and interfacing Ada to it has > literally been the LEAST of our problems. Writing Ada bindings, even > high level ones, is really not all that difficult for an experienced > Ada developer. There are even some tools available to do it for you. > Getting COTS hardware/software combinations that will work > together, now THAT has been a nightmare! Have you been building Ada bindings to C++? I've built plenty of binding to C source code, i.e. VxWorks. I don't know of a way to bind to C++ objects or C++ methods. > I have seen neither of these. I suppose it depends on your > definition of "credible". The major players, Alsys and Rational seem > to be getting stonger than ever. And the last few months have seen > the emergence of ACT. Well one of the companies you sight "Alsys" no longer exists. They are part of "Telesoft"... Oh no now both "Alsys" and "Telesoft" no longer exist they're "Thomson". Well there's "Verdix" oh wait that's part of "Rational". From conversations with "Rational" what they're working on is their C++ compiler. My information comes from the list of validated compilers. It is clear that the number of Ada compiler venders have been shrinking. There aren't alot of companies entering the Ada compiler market. There is also some fallout from the TI aquisition of Tartan. I'm fairly sure that the product line of Tartan will be shrank. > In any event, you can now get an Ada compile for FREE. Yes, but do you know of any major DoD projects that are be developed using GNAT? When you buy a FREE compiler you get what you pay for. Remember what the "Ada Mandate" was created to do. It was created to reduce the DoD software maintanence of over 200 langauges down to just one. The commercial world has now paired the major languages down to a handfull. It is now time to drop the Ada Mandate! If Ada is as strong as everyone says, clearly it will thrive and survive. I personnally believe that if that "Ada Mandate" was removed, Ada would take it's place in history like Jovial, Pascal, and Atlas... These are just my humble opinion from an Ada Programmer, yes I'm an Ada programmer!!!