From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,f292779560fb8442 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,af40e09e753872c X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,30e368bdb3310fe5 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: f8c65,30e368bdb3310fe5 X-Google-Attributes: gidf8c65,public X-Google-Thread: 1008e3,30e368bdb3310fe5 X-Google-Attributes: gid1008e3,public X-Google-Thread: 10db24,30e368bdb3310fe5 X-Google-Attributes: gid10db24,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,30e368bdb3310fe5 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: mcc@thunder.watson.ibm.com (Mark Chu-Carroll) Subject: Re: Hungarian notation Date: 1996/05/16 Message-ID: <4nfbeu$12t5@watnews1.watson.ibm.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 155141947 references: <4adem2$b5s@mercury.IntNet.net> <4na9r2$qin@solutions.solon.com> <4naeqp$e2f@druid.borland.com> <4ndb2j$1p0q@uni.library.ucla.edu> organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.modula3,comp.lang.modula2,comp.edu,comp.lang.eiffel Date: 1996-05-16T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <4ndb2j$1p0q@uni.library.ucla.edu>, Jay Martin wrote: >Even imporant projects at Microsoft do not use Hungarian notation: > >"Cutler (Mr VMS/NT) and his team reject Hungarian. This pleased Wood, who >called Hungarian "the stupidest thing I'd ever seen." " > >-- From NT project reflection book: Showstopper! by G Pascal Zachary, pg 56. > >Hungarian notation is just another idiotic established concepts >thriving in the computer science field. Isn't CS wonderful? I point >my finger at the totally inattentive and spaced-out >software-incompetent clowns in CS academia. Before you get too smug in your anti-academic sneering, you might want to consider the fact that hungarian notation is almost entirely an *industrial* practice. In my experience, virtually all of those academics that you're so busy sneering at think that hungarian naming is an incredibly foolish idea. The current vogue for hungarian naming was started by Microsoft, and has propogated mainly through the use of Microsoft software development products. Current academic thought on software development and engineering tends to stress formal design, and a high level of abstraction - which is directly counter to the currently popular variant of hungarian naming. -- Mark Craig Chu-Carroll || "I'm not dumb, IBM T.J. Watson Research Center || I just have a command of thoroughly useless mcc@watson.ibm.com || information." --- Calvin