From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1014db,df854b5838c3e14 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,df854b5838c3e14 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,df854b5838c3e14 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: morphis@fnalv1.fnal.gov Subject: Re: Unix Haters Date: 1996/04/11 Message-ID: <4kjqnn$s8b@fnnews.fnal.gov>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 146977834 references: <00001a73+00002504@msn.com> <31442F19.6C13@lfwc.lockheed.com> <828207683snz@genesis.demon.co.uk> ,<3160B659.D3B@mcs.com> <4kj4rq$d34@fnnews.fnal.gov>,<4kjd3o$nks@mordred.gatech.edu> organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab reply-to: morphis@fnalv1.fnal.gov newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++ Date: 1996-04-11T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: james@amber.biology.gatech.edu (James McIninch) writes: >morphis@fnalv1.fnal.gov wrote: >: In article <3160B659.D3B@mcs.com>, Mike Young writes: >: >Does anyone else find it odd that everything (it seems) runs on a Power >: >PC, but not OS/2? > >: no, OS/2 isn't on PPC for business reasons. > >You can get OS/2 for the PowerPC, but you must order it directly from IBM. True, but it is apparently like pulling teeth to get them to sell it to you. >As far as IBM is concerned there's little reason to expend the money or >effort to market OS/2 for the PowerPC (since the most popular PowerPC >platform is the Power Macintoshes and few Power Mac hardware developpers >seemed interested in writing device drivers for Power Mac peripherals for >OS/2). Hmmm, I hadn't heard this reason before. >: 1)IBM wants to sell its unix on the PPC and would lose some unix sales >: if they put OS/2 on it > >Doubtful. For the most part, OS/2 really is poised as a desktop OS that is It looks to me that with OS/2 server coming and the new bundling with Merlin there is going to be some significant overlap in the near future. In any case the complaint in *.os2.* is that the AIX folks wanted the powerpc to themselves... take it with a grain of salt >: In any case VMS is superiour (sp?) in all ways to UNIX! so there! >: (and he quickly leaves stage left) > > :) I have to admit VMS' RMS is pretty cool. Other than that... that's interesting, most Unix based VMS bashers consider RMS (file types in particular) to be a major liability ... clearly for hacking around (that is meant in a positive way) Unix has certain advantages*, from a system management POV I think VMS has some serious strengths... in between, to each his own. Robert *disclaimer: the following is running at the mouth by someone who does more lurking than contributing on comp.os.vms. (by fall VMS will finally get pipes, I will be interested to see just how they are going to implement them, it is amusing that VMS is more complient with various UNIXish standards than some Unices... but in the real world if you want to port code that requires a lot of forking off of processes the difference in process creation is so great that you are going to take a big hit in performance moving from Unix to VMS)