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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
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Subject: Re: Ada, the best language with the not-so-best tool chain
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:00:23 +0200
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Date: 2012-10-08T15:00:23+02:00
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 14:40:17 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote:

> On 08.10.12 09:31, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>> Embedded became bigger than one-man hobby project.
> 
> Looking for embedded stuff around here, there is an electronic
> $10,- scale. It happens to have destructive software built in.
> (The scale refuses to operate now, resetting does not have any
> effect.)
> It does not have inputs or outputs, except maybe hidden on
> its main boards, which measures about 2cm x 1cm, but I cannot
> easily take a look.
> 
> Another item with digital electronics embedded is an older battery
> charger that has an RS 232 serial connector. If you know the
> prices of contemporary battery chargers then you know there
> cannot be any $30,- PC hardware in it.
> 
> And we have a microwave oven. I doubt it has ethernet, although it
> seems a likely candidate, given all the attempts at home automation;
> I'm also guessing that it's got a very moderate, yet capable micro
> controller in it, not a PC. (The user may operate 13 buttons and
> two rotary knobs, and watch an LCD display.)  Do microwave ovens
> have HiRes timers?

If you were a vendor of microwave herds, I bet you would have money to buy
a license from AdaCore. You could even afford developing an Ada 2012
compiler from scratch. (:-))

It all about how many boards come in question and how complex the software
has to be. One of our customers develops all software from scratch for each
new device. When we asked them, would not it be better to have a portable
layer for the stuff, they answered that by the numbers they have in
production, they need not to care about software costs...

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de