From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, PP_MIME_FAKE_ASCII_TEXT autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,be23df8e7e275d73 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-07 01:06:24 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!opentransit.net!proxad.net!feeder2-1.proxad.net!nnrp6.proxad.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "nicolas" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <9jrt62$38t$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B619A6D.5DD6E782@home.com> <3B6636BA.96FD8348@home.com> <9kb3ub$hdo$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> <9kchn1$lng$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> <9kea9a$lsc$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9keduf$qvc$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> <9kelv1$riq$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> <9klokd0nif@drn.newsguy.com> Subject: Re: Proving Correctness (was Java Portability) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Message-ID: <4kNb7.7072$_R1.5845105@nnrp6.proxad.net> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 08:06:24 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.101.131.241 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net X-Trace: nnrp6.proxad.net 997171584 195.101.131.241 (Tue, 07 Aug 2001 10:06:24 CEST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 10:06:24 CEST Organization: Guest of ProXad - France Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:11463 Date: 2001-08-07T08:06:24+00:00 List-Id: "Pascal Obry" a �crit dans le message news: uzo9cu3o8.fsf@wanadoo.fr... > Well said. Either way, Nicolas, you just can't get something for free. You > should either comit some time or money. I'm fully convinced that ACT would be very happy to get a lot of money from potential customers :-) :-) But Stephen and you are reducing the problem to ACT company and ACT customers. We were talking about Ada language in a much more general way. You seem to expect people to be your customer, and pay you before you satisfy them, while they may find what they need with others Ada compilers or others languages, which is already satisfying. When you are in a competitive market, and especially not the dominant actor, that's a litttle optimistic :-) Development languages market is a kind of competitive market where Ada is not especially the dominant one ... You know, usually, companies first invest to develop a viable product, and only after that, get an income from their customers, if the product is satisfying :-) To rephrase what you said : "Either way, ACT, you just can't get something for free. You should either comit some time or money" to develop satisfying libraries before making money with them ... I don't understand very well how you can hope I (or anybody else) am going to pay ACT, Aonix or Rational for an XML library, when I'm using a fully satisfying, available, and free Java one ...... May be I missed something, but I don't think I'm the only one to have some problems to understand your way of thinking ...