From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,e75bfb1654f6d3ca,start X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,e75bfb1654f6d3ca,start X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,e75bfb1654f6d3ca,start X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,d39c64a4c3f475c5 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,e75bfb1654f6d3ca,start X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: jahlstro@cisco.com (John Ahlstrom) Subject: Re: SoftEng, United, Baggage, Denver Date: 1996/04/01 Message-ID: <4jp56h$mhl@cronkite.cisco.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 145264368 references: <4ipj97$1nd@cronkite.cisco.com> <4ipuoc$9jr@news.inc.net> <3152165d.1224168@nntp.peg.apc.org> <31574ac8.1198289879@news.dimensional.com> <31580c3f.1247878304@news.dimensional.com> <4j9o5f$6sv@nuacht.iol.ie> <4jbl22$loc@news.sei.cmu.edu> <4jgvme$ohk@post.gsfc.nasa.gov> organization: cisco Systems, Incorporated newsgroups: comp.software-eng,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.eiffel Date: 1996-04-01T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Mike Stark (michael.e.stark@gsfc.nasa.gov) wrote: : nrm@sei.cmu.edu (Nancy Mead) wrote: : > : >In article <4j9o5f$6sv@nuacht.iol.ie>, nmurphy@iol.ie (Niall Murphy) writes: : >|> cjames@melchizedek.cec-services.com (The Right Reverend Colin James : >|> III) wrote: : >|> : >|> ^ : >|> >You are mistaken. C/C++ is much more susceptible to errors due to the : >|> >languages being write-once, among other reasons. : >|> -- snip snip : Folks -- : I hate to admit it, but the Rt. Reverend is not making an outrageous : argument when he blames C++ for problems in a large software system : that controls mechanical devices. Yes, if your staff is well-trained : on how to use its tools the choice of language is less important. However, there are languages specifically designed for embedded s= : ystems (Ada, anyone?) or to support the maintenance of large systems via : the contract model for interfaces and inclusion of assertions in the : language (Eiffel, anyone?). : ----------------------------------------------------------------------- : Michael Stark NASA/GSFC : Phone: (301) 286-5048 Code 552 : Fax: (301) 286-0245 Greenbelt, MD 20771 : e-mail: michael.e.stark@gsfc.nasa.gov : "I don't give them hell. I tell the truth and they THINK it's hell!" : -- Harry S. Truman : ----------------------------------------------------------------------- A colleague of mine after about 5 years with C and about 18 months with C++ had to get himself a T-shirt made saying on the front: C is Much Worse Than C++ and on the back: C++ is Much Worse Than C -- John Ahlstrom jahlstrom@cisco.com SAYNet, Inc Using Java to Decrease Entropy 408-526-6025