From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,df854b5838c3e14 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,df854b5838c3e14 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,df854b5838c3e14 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public From: seebs@solutions.solon.com (Peter Seebach) Subject: Re: Logic (was C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada) Date: 1996/03/15 Message-ID: <4idi40$70c@solutions.solon.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 142996552 references: <00001a73+00002504@msn.com> <3146E324.5C1E@lfwc.lockheed.com> organization: Usenet Fact Police (Undercover) newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++ Date: 1996-03-15T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <314987D3.7A19@lfwc.lockheed.com>, Ken Garlington wrote: >> You are somehow, and at this point I can only assume it is intentional, >> completely failing to distinguish between "X can be used with Y" and "X >> is related to Y". I can smash plates with a hammer; this does not introduce >> some general relevance of hammers to plates. >No, but it introduces a _specific_ relevance. Here's the counter-example, >using your logic: > o People rob banks to get money. > o However, money is used in many non-criminal contexts. > o Therefore, money has nothing to do with robbing banks. >Any further posts on the rules of logic in this area will be cheerfully >ignored. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this point. Hmm. Here's the thing, though - people also steal things other than money. So, we have that: o People steal money. o People steal things other than money. o People use money in non-criminal contexts. Therefore, money is not a part of theft, and theft is not a part of money. A problem with make, or a strength of make, is not related to the C language. It may be related to the *use* of the C language. This is different. C has a vast weakness in that there is *no* real specification of how programs work if they are in separate files. It has a vast strength in that you can improve on the method used at will, without conflicts. -s -- Peter Seebach - seebs@solon.com - Copyright 1996 Peter Seebach. C/Unix wizard -- C/Unix questions? Send mail for help. No, really! FUCK the communications decency act. Goddamned government. [literally.]