From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,df854b5838c3e14 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,df854b5838c3e14 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,df854b5838c3e14 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: gzhjis@ubszh.net.ch (Ian Johnston (by ubsswop)) Subject: Re: C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada Date: 1996/03/15 Message-ID: <4ic92p$2fa@ubszh.fh.zh.ubs.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 142841752 distribution: world references: <00001a73+00002504@msn.com> <31442F19.6C13@lfwc.lockheed.com> <4i26uhINNsd@keats.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> <31457584.2475@lfwc.lockheed.com> <4i4s5f$igc@solutions.solon.com> <3146E324.5C1E@lfwc.lockheed.com> <4i9ld6$m2v@rational.rational.com> <4iah20$p7k@saba.info.ucla.edu> organization: UBS newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++ Date: 1996-03-15T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <4iah20$p7k@saba.info.ucla.edu>, jmartin@cs.ucla.edu (Jay Martin) writes: [...] |> Right, make is mostly used to support development in C and other |> primitive languages. I have seen this piece of crap utility used for |> all sort of braindead misuses. Yes, make is primitive and often leaves a lot to be desired. But... Oh, I want the debug build. Hmm, now I need a profiled build. Let's see, I want the Solaris verion. No, the AIX version. Er, I need the NT version. Oh, and I might as well do the VMS version now too. Umm, I need to rebuild these IDL files; before that I need to run my Ada-to-IDL converter. By the way, we need the ACMS task list too. Better run that scanner. I just changed a header file. I'll run the C++ dependency finder now. Now, where was that package? I'll run the Ada dependency finder now. Oh, the library changed? I'll run the C to Ada package converter then. Er, I want to preprocess this C file, with all those cpp flags. |> Unix-ites seem to love to dp goofy |> things with their utilities. Heh, I have seen people using Lex and |> Yacc to build parsers to read in simple tables. Like swatting a bug |> with a sledge hammer (they ever heard of "scanf"?), but they probably |> felt so Computer Scientific doing it! (The journey is the reward) Too true. |> By the |> way after 10+ years of using Unix I am having trouble thinking of a |> standard Unix utility that is not a total misdesigned piece of crap! |> Maybe someone can help me. grep ? Ian