From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,df854b5838c3e14 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,df854b5838c3e14 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,df854b5838c3e14 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public From: ramsesy@rd.scitec.com.au (Ramses Youhana) Subject: Re: C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada Date: 1996/02/19 Message-ID: <4g8jj6$bce@mailhub.scitec.com.au>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 139981371 references: <00001a73+00002504@msn.com> <4etcmm$lpd@nova.dimensional.com> followup-to: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++ organization: SCITEC LIMITED, Sydney, Australia. newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++ Date: 1996-02-19T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: John Byerly (byerly_j@srm9.motsat.sat.mot.com) wrote: > In article <4etcmm$lpd@nova.dimensional.com> cjames@melchizedek.cec-services.com (The Right Reverend Colin James III) writes: You complain about someone elses logic being flawed when your logic is just as flawed. Don't just read other peoples comments and take them at face value. Try and understand them first. For example: > > C/C++ is also superior for six, very practical reasons: > > > > 1. C/C++ compilers which are industrial quality with professional > > support are cheaper than the expensive, vendor-gouging Ada ones; > C/C++ is cheaper than Ada. Does that mean that it is superior to Ada? If so, let's > follow the logic and grab a freeware compiler of some language, since it would be > (by your logic) more superior to C/C++. In the first posting, the writer does not say that the cheaper the product is the better it is. Instead he believes that C/C++ is better than Ada (for practical reasons) because it is within more peoples reach, as C/C++ compilers and tools are cheaper than the equivalent Ada compilers and tools. As a result, it is more likely that there are more people out there who use (and/or prefer to use) C/C++ than Ada. How many Ada compilers and software tools are there out there for (say) writing Windows applications, and how good are these applications compared with those of C/C++ compilers and tools (especially when you take value for money into account)? > > 5. C/C++ jobs are more in demand and plentiful and easier to get and > > in hundreds more US geographic areas than Ada jobs; > Yes, and burger flipping jobs are even more plentiful than C/C++ jobs. Once again, > this has NO bearing on how effective a tool is. C/C++ and Ada are software languages useful for writing programs. Burgers are not. If you are a software programmer or a Software engineer, then C/C++ and Ada jobs are more appropriate than are Burger flipping jobs. Ramses.