From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,b78c363353551702 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.68.190.104 with SMTP id gp8mr4001483pbc.4.1340384036665; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 09:53:56 -0700 (PDT) Path: l9ni7497pbj.0!nntp.google.com!news1.google.com!goblin3!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!uio.no!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!npeer-ng0.de.kpn-eurorings.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool4.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 18:53:55 +0200 From: Georg Bauhaus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: about the new Ada 2012 pre/post conditions References: <1hgo6aks03zy.by4pq4xbjsgf$.dlg@40tude.net> <1jvy3elqtnd1j.1sjbk32evhp1f$.dlg@40tude.net> <4fe45ce8$0$9508$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <1v3soeviat3z1.f0iwle9giqwk.dlg@40tude.net> <4fe4819d$0$9525$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <4fe494d6$0$9502$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <1w374wmajen4k$.dinp8otplf2q.dlg@40tude.net> In-Reply-To: <1w374wmajen4k$.dinp8otplf2q.dlg@40tude.net> Message-ID: <4fe4a323$0$9523$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> Organization: Arcor NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Jun 2012 18:53:55 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 55a56bdc.newsspool1.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=U=P:YKhOD=iFXUDVUnEXQmic==]BZ:afn4Fo<]lROoRankgeX?EC@@`L]_QDT8B6ionc\616M64>jLh>_cHTX3jmAnj52YjJ1 On 22.06.12 18:35, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 17:52:53 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote: > >> The world happens, including computers, and the laws of logic are >> far too insufficient to capture it. > > Great, now we are in cordial agreement that dynamic checks of Ada 2012 are > in breach with laws of logic! (:-)) Anything dynamic (non-static, or otherwise unpredictable) is demonstrably right or wrong, after the fact. Sometimes with the help of the post-hoc fallacy :-)