From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,b78c363353551702 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.68.190.104 with SMTP id gp8mr25213635pbc.4.1340260361483; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 23:32:41 -0700 (PDT) Path: l9ni2257pbj.0!nntp.google.com!news2.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder2-2.proxad.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool1.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:32:53 +0200 From: Georg Bauhaus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: about the new Ada 2012 pre/post conditions References: <4f0d55a9-83e1-44fe-8943-0c73a34a594d@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4fe2c009$0$9518$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> Organization: Arcor NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Jun 2012 08:32:41 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 05348196.newsspool1.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=Y8j5[N^XN;@74okIm;?DS@ic==]BZ:afN4Fo<]lROoRAnkgeX?EC@@@RXf;QenT\CMPCY\c7>ejVHGDLE\Q<7[^HPEn7 On 21.06.12 00:19, Robert A Duff wrote: > "Jeffrey R. Carter" writes: > >> Any checks worth having during testing are worth having after testing. > > I say: If you don't need to turn off (at least some) assertions for > efficiency reasons, then you probably don't have enough assertions. One measure for "enough assertions" is, I think, when some set of assertions will finally have been shown to be a consequence of the program. What are we testing if this set would still be worth testing, then?