From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,25457a5aee9eaa04 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.68.191.225 with SMTP id hb1mr8931260pbc.5.1338282800563; Tue, 29 May 2012 02:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Path: pr3ni61716pbb.0!nntp.google.com!news2.google.com!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news.internetdienste.de!noris.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool2.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 11:13:14 +0200 From: Georg Bauhaus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Fuzzy machine learning framework v1.2 References: <280411e312fcf03741189158e0c986b4@dizum.com> In-Reply-To: <280411e312fcf03741189158e0c986b4@dizum.com> Message-ID: <4fc4932f$0$6548$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> Organization: Arcor NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 May 2012 11:13:19 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: d5a18fbc.newsspool4.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=oAB5KlnK\Kf:i=48;n?Z:`4IUKjLh>_cHTX3jm[G_e`f4:>7e X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: 2012-05-29T11:13:19+02:00 List-Id: On 29.05.12 09:31, Nomen Nescio wrote: > For example if you teach a person something or give him an answer to a > problem and then he presents it as his own work, everyone should view him > as an ungrateful scoundrel and cheat. This is the way human interaction > works, "credit where credit is due" is expected proper behavior. Plagiarism > is already viewed as misconduct to the point of criminal liability in some > cases, and attribution is an established basic social requirement. I don't > view that as a licensing restriction since it applies to everything. > > It has nothing to do with software specifically, it is related to how people > conduct themselves everywhere in society. Well put. Behavior is governed by norms. Some informal, some formal. What if the norms are violated? A partial answer is found in Terms and Conditions of licenses. An individual Y creating a work of software sometimes misbehaves by someone else's standards. For example, by the standards of licensor X. Whatever Y's motives might be, Y has behaved in a way that X finds unacceptable. If X is a software developer, what should X do about Y's behavior? Enter licenses. Considering the example you have described: > For example if you teach a person something or give him an answer to a > problem and then he presents it as his own work, everyone should view him > as an ungrateful scoundrel and cheat. Public disdain exists, as did pillories, for good or bad. In any case, the "should" part of "everyone should" is typically translated into The Law, whenever a society feels these norms had better be formalized. So, misbehavior and a desire to sanction them leads to licenses, directly: If X wishes to prevent others from infringing X's rights through misconduct, then X is free to pick a license that helps establish this goal (of proper conduct), using legal force as necessary, or desired. Licenses help X when Y will otherwise ignore X when X asks for proper conduct. And we are free to not care about Y's misconduct.