From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 5b1e799cdb,3ef3e78eacf6f938 X-Google-Attributes: gid5b1e799cdb,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!h18g2000yqj.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Andrea Taverna Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.modula3,comp.programming Subject: Re: Alternatives to C: ObjectPascal, Eiffel, Ada or Modula-3? Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:12:59 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <4fc0934e-197b-4a02-a006-4b64072897b2@h18g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 159.149.106.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1248185579 17597 127.0.0.1 (21 Jul 2009 14:12:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:12:59 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: h18g2000yqj.googlegroups.com; posting-host=159.149.106.5; posting-account=q_H03goAAABDwevycEkYzGRVjq5lpBVA User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008071615 Fedora/3.0.1-1.fc9 Firefox/3.0.1,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) X-HTTP-Via: 1.1 jellyfish.divtlc.unimi.it:8080 (squid/2.6.STABLE21) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.eiffel:365 comp.lang.ada:7235 comp.lang.modula3:72 comp.programming:11947 Date: 2009-07-21T07:12:59-07:00 List-Id: On 21 Lug, 14:25, Jon Harrop wrote: > I am very surprised at the list of languages you arrived at! FreePascal, > Eiffel and Modula-3 are all essentially dead. I don't think so. FP seems to have a pretty alive community, GOBO libraries seem to be actively updated. I can't confirm for M3, but its supporters seem to be "alive and kicking". Anyway, you're hitting me where it hurts. Perhaps I'm just clueless, or childish, but I just can't stand this situation. The more I learn, the more I feel that something went wrong in the "language war" in the '80, and this leaves a bad tastes in my mouth. It may be ridiculous since I was a child when that "war" took place. Nevertheless, I can't do anything but note that the languages above got something right that modern mainstream languages haven't yet. > I would also strongly recommend avoiding conservative garbage collectors > because they leak uncontrollably: Thanks for the tip.