From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,ea5071f634c2ea8b X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.68.39.100 with SMTP id o4mr11018517pbk.0.1322216119092; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 02:15:19 -0800 (PST) Path: lh20ni16079pbb.0!nntp.google.com!news2.google.com!volia.net!news2.volia.net!feed-A.news.volia.net!newsfeed.utanet.at!newscore.univie.ac.at!newsfeed01.chello.at!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool3.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 11:15:17 +0100 From: Georg Bauhaus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111103 Thunderbird/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Generic-Package Elaboration Question / Possible GNAT Bug. References: <7bf9bc32-850a-40c6-9ae2-5254fe220533@f29g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> <4295dc09-43de-4557-a095-fc108359f27f@y42g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> <3snehoqgs8ia$.1nobjem6g6hx6$.dlg@40tude.net> <128rdz2581345$.c4td19l7qp9z$.dlg@40tude.net> <16ipwvpdavifr$.17bxf7if7f6kh$.dlg@40tude.net> <4ecb78b1$0$6643$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net> <1iofgbqznsviu$.phvidtvxlyj4$.dlg@40tude.net> <4ecbb96e$0$6581$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <743e83a1-c442-444b-a25a-da706e9cd0f9@g7g2000vbd.googlegroups.com> <011f483a-e0d7-4475-89e6-506802e88b9b@i6g2000vbe.googlegroups.com> <1u91r9gjh5ep7.5o1zfpumqbfu$.dlg@40tude.net> In-Reply-To: <1u91r9gjh5ep7.5o1zfpumqbfu$.dlg@40tude.net> Message-ID: <4ecf6ab5$0$7616$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> Organization: Arcor NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Nov 2011 11:15:17 CET NNTP-Posting-Host: ab3ceae7.newsspool1.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=ETAe>8KQIiNI7\_^6>c20Jic==]BZ:afN4Fo<]lROoRA<`=YMgDjhgBlY\DnWb[:EBPCY\c7>ejVH9oa7DHGH6KGmE^=\KK?5VO X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Xref: news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:14641 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: 2011-11-25T11:15:17+01:00 List-Id: On 11/25/11 10:47 AM, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > Then a definition must *define* some really existing phenomenon. It is > pointless to discuss DbC (TM) because it is not something which really > exists. ISO/IEC 25436:2006 Also ECMA-367 section 8.9 If Ada's pre/post aspects are close to ECMA-367 section 8.9 and if the latter is as flawed as the former, if so, then Ada can get it right now: now is the time to fix bugs in Ada 2012. If there is a replacement such as F = Prologue o G o Epilogue that is better than what is currently being added as pre/post aspects, more correct, less buggy: now's the time.