From: AdaMagica <christ-usch.grein@t-online.de>
Subject: Re: Ada.Real_Time.Time_Last
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2017 06:00:08 -0800 (PST)
Date: 2017-11-18T06:00:08-08:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ecc08f1-bbf3-46e2-ad31-a930d90da310@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7aq9hFrlubU1@mid.individual.net>
Am Samstag, 18. November 2017 14:18:44 UTC+1 schrieb Niklas Holsti:
> On 17-11-18 15:06 , AdaMagica wrote:
> > Am Freitag, 17. November 2017 22:39:51 UTC+1 schrieb Niklas Holsti:
> >
> >> Long ago, I suggested (on c.l.a) an Ada extension by which a package
> >> could declare private types using the same classes of types that can be
> >> used for generic formal types. That would IMO not only be useful for
> >> programmers, it could formalise some of the informal text in the Ada RM.
> >> For example, RM A.4.8 defines the type Ada.Direct_IO.Count as
> >>
> >> type Count is range 0 .. implementation defined;
> >>
> >> With the suggested extension, this could be written in legal (extended)
> >> Ada as
> >>
> >> type Count is private range <>;
> >>
> >> That form still does not show that Count'First = 0, but with a little
> >> further extension one could perhaps leave only the upper bound
> >> unspecified, as in:
> >>
> >> type Count is private range 0 .. <>;
> >>
> >> Perhaps it is time for me to revive this proposal...
> >>
> > Problem with this is that private types have no predefined operators.
>
> That is a problem with private types in *current* Ada, where a private
> type is fully "opaque". This proposal is meant to remove this problem,
> by letting the programmer provide more information about the private
> type, in the same way as information can now be provided about generic
> formal types, to equip those types with predefined operators that can be
> used in the generic.
Yes - but what do we gain with this new syntax? Is it worth the effort? Which problem does it solve (to rephrase Randy)?
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Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-15 14:28 Ada.Real_Time.Time_Last Simon Wright
2017-11-15 20:03 ` Ada.Real_Time.Time_Last Niklas Holsti
2017-11-17 9:20 ` Ada.Real_Time.Time_Last Simon Wright
2017-11-17 21:39 ` Ada.Real_Time.Time_Last Niklas Holsti
2017-11-18 13:06 ` Ada.Real_Time.Time_Last AdaMagica
2017-11-18 13:18 ` Ada.Real_Time.Time_Last Niklas Holsti
2017-11-18 14:00 ` AdaMagica [this message]
2017-11-18 14:15 ` Ada.Real_Time.Time_Last Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-11-18 15:24 ` Ada.Real_Time.Time_Last Niklas Holsti
2017-11-18 16:01 ` Ada.Real_Time.Time_Last Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-11-18 17:31 ` Ada.Real_Time.Time_Last Niklas Holsti
2017-11-18 22:20 ` Ada.Real_Time.Time_Last Robert A Duff
2017-11-19 10:50 ` Ada.Real_Time.Time_Last Niklas Holsti
2017-11-20 5:57 ` Ada.Real_Time.Time_Last J-P. Rosen
2019-01-29 22:03 ` Ada.Real_Time.Time_Last Simon Wright
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