From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,fc52c633190162e0 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: why learn C? References: <1172144043.746296.44680@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <1172161751.573558.24140@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <546qkhF1tr7dtU1@mid.individual.net> <5ZULh.48$YL5.40@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> <1175215906.645110.217810@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <1175230700.925143.28490@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <6XbPh.4025$u03.802@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net> <1175491660.511530.58430@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1175566924.442636.199470@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> From: Markus E Leypold Organization: N/A Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:18:36 +0200 Message-ID: <4dr6qpo9b7.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> User-Agent: Some cool user agent (SCUG) Cancel-Lock: sha1:yZb/nKtXScPTh65uObCVEVwh4Hs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.72.204.82 X-Trace: news.arcor-ip.de 1176394272 88.72.204.82 (12 Apr 2007 18:11:12 +0200) X-Complaints-To: abuse@arcor-ip.de Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder3.cambrium.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!217.73.144.44.MISMATCH!ecngs!feeder.ecngs.de!news.germany.com!news.unit0.net!newsfeed.arcor-ip.de!news.arcor-ip.de!not-for-mail Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:14994 Date: 2007-04-12T18:18:36+02:00 List-Id: Hyman Rosen writes: > jimmaureenrogers@worldnet.att.net wrote: >> I discovered that C++ template language does not allow the >> specification of a floating point value as a template parameter. > > In C++, instantiations are considered the same if their > parameters are the same, and the standards committee did > not want the burden of defining T<3.0*(1.0/3.0)> vis a vis > T<1.0>. We have been through that discussion before. IMHO that this decision was even necessarry indicates (in my eyes) the inferiority of the automatic instantion approach. In C++ the "identity" of an instance needs to be determined by the parameters. In Ada (and many other languages with functors) by the act of instantiation. > >> one cannot write a C++ template to handle range-specified > > floating point classes. > > Of course this is wrong. Every floating point number that you > write in a program is in fact a rational number, and therefore > depending on the purpose those numbers will have in the template, > they be represented using small sets of integers in a variety of > ways. The template itself can then assemble these parts into a > floating-point constant and use it. Or if that's too burdensome, > references to floating-point variables are permitted, so getting > what you want looks rather like Ada generic instantiation. Groan. How ugly. Regards -- Markus