From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,e276c1ed16429c03 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!easy.in-chemnitz.de!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!uucp.gnuu.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool2.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 16:55:47 +0200 From: Georg Bauhaus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.11) Gecko/20101013 Thunderbird/3.1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada is getting more popular! References: <4cc4cb65$0$6985$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <5086cc5e-cd51-4222-a977-06bdb4fb3430@u10g2000yqk.googlegroups.com> <14fkqzngmbae6.zhgzct559yc.dlg@40tude.net> <4cc572d5$0$6769$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <4t5et4vkke8y.148p10hr7mafx.dlg@40tude.net> In-Reply-To: <4t5et4vkke8y.148p10hr7mafx.dlg@40tude.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <4cc59a73$0$6890$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net> Organization: Arcor NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Oct 2010 16:55:47 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 6d1f58a0.newsspool2.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=1E[A6B7fB]iOKO]LCQ@0g`A9EHlD;3Ycb4Fo<]lROoRa8kFjLh>_cHTX3jm6F3@ao9_l;e X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:14753 Date: 2010-10-25T16:55:47+02:00 List-Id: On 25.10.10 15:41, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 14:06:44 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote: > >> On 25.10.10 12:33, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >> >>> Redistribution is the key. You pay/invest in not what you get/sell. It is a >>> distorted relationship between the producer and consumer. >>> >>> The point is that service is secondary to the product. >> >> I imagine that theorists of how-to-build-software-business will >> emphasize differently: >> Mathematically, the most important good is the one that >> produces the highest profit, respecting the limiting factors >> such as law, strategy, or other obligations. Criteria such >> as how-to-find-a-societal-optimum in a market economy >> seem to be artifacts of macro economy without positive >> manifestation anywhere. Redistribution is a multivariate >> function of n-compiler : m-customers, ceteris paribus. >> >> Can you name the latter? > > Yes, the GOSPLAN I mean the ceteris paribus besides n-compiler : m-customers that exists in the compiler market, today, which allegedly have the effect that today's handful of Ada compiler shops are starving, whereas other languages feed lots of compiler makers, leaving myriads of choices. >> Do you have the numbers of compiler makers who sold >> nothing but compilers in, say, the late 1980s versus >> the same numbers as of today? Numbers of licenses sold? > > No idea. There existed dozens of C compilers that time. How many are now? > Let us draw a chart: Ada version / compiler number > > Ada 83 - 10 (?) > Ada 95 - 3 (?) > Ada 2005 - 1 (?) http://www.adaic.com/compilers/comp-tool.html If you read the public discussions at ada-auth, you know that IBM has some support for Ada 2005. I'd also be surprised if the SofCheck front end is still just Ada 95---a few years ago there were traces of 2005 already. In addition, I I'd suggest that Randy Brukardt is fleshing out his quite active discussing the new libraries with something compilable by Janus/Ada.