From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNCLOSED_BRACKET autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,11414a19b0e4a97a X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!open-news-network.org!noris.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool1.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 16:12:15 +0200 From: Georg Bauhaus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608 Thunderbird/3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Advice on selling Ada to a C shop References: <101bf8f3-b823-45ee-9afd-40cbafb4b7a9@t26g2000prt.googlegroups.com> <774c25c4-3270-4ffb-ad19-366a0ab16659@i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> <84972d86-4850-4234-9224-ded8d12baf3b@b4g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <875done36srz$.mfu4cwmujuu2$.dlg@40tude.net> In-Reply-To: <875done36srz$.mfu4cwmujuu2$.dlg@40tude.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <4c372e40$0$6775$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> Organization: Arcor NNTP-Posting-Date: 09 Jul 2010 16:12:16 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 5c085b25.newsspool3.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=4f6507c^TCnc\616M64>:Lh>_cHTX3j=65UMl]T^<[0 X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:12287 Date: 2010-07-09T16:12:16+02:00 List-Id: On 09.07.10 15:45, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 06:21:07 -0700 (PDT), Marco wrote: > >> Agreed - it is either a function that returns a value or a procedure >> that can manipulate state not both > > Function manipulates the state of its result. > > (Stateless computing is a fiction) When the word "function" is just not present in a programming language, is there a problem at all? I mean, do people complain? Every terminating procedure does compute a function from input variables and stores the result in some output variables. Correct? Do we want "function"? Or do we want "modifies"?