From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,11414a19b0e4a97a X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!novia!transit3.readnews.com!news-out.readnews.com!postnews3.readnews.com!not-for-mail Message-Id: <4c1e0a86$0$2376$4d3efbfe@news.sover.net> From: "Peter C. Chapin" Subject: Re: Advice on selling Ada to a C shop Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 08:35:46 -0400 References: <101bf8f3-b823-45ee-9afd-40cbafb4b7a9@t26g2000prt.googlegroups.com> <87hbkym4i2.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> User-Agent: KNode/0.10.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Organization: SoVerNet (sover.net) NNTP-Posting-Host: e9f7438d.news.sover.net X-Trace: DXC=XXPlh3m@43iFIGPAdlO[KoK6_LM2JZB_cW?2c0[Uf7Do:WUUlR<856o4\cfZ^]`dJjcSo?]fjS;6a X-Complaints-To: abuse@sover.net Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:11834 Date: 2010-06-20T08:35:46-04:00 List-Id: Ludovic Brenta wrote: > For (b), you must do some market research up-front before you can pitch > the language to your company. This is because, in many developers' > minds, a language is only as good as the IDE (*not* the compiler, > unfortunately); so you should be prepared to demo GPS and ObjectAda to > them. There is also gnatbench. If you are an Eclipse shop that might be the most important IDE to demonstrate. In general AdaCore does a great job at giving the impression that Ada is alive and developing. They either produce or are involved with a steady stream of new tools and targets. I'm not saying that other Ada vendors are doing nothing to develop and promote Ada, but from where I sit (admittedly an academic viewpoint), AdaCore seems the most visible. Peter