From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,6609c40f81b32989 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,9bdec20bcc7f3687 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Thread: 101deb,e67cdb1dcad3c668 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,gid8d3408f8c3,gidbda4de328f,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:24:02 -0500 From: cri@tiac.net (Richard Harter) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.pl1 Subject: Re: Why is Ada considered "too specialized" for scientific use Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 15:24:00 GMT Message-ID: <4c0d0e37.1190067109@text.giganews.com> References: <4bb9c72c$0$6990$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <4bba8bf1$0$56418$c30e37c6@exi-reader.telstra.net> <4bbb2246$8$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net> <4bbb5386$0$56422$c30e37c6@exi-reader.telstra.net> <4bbdf5c6$1$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net> <4c0a2e36$0$34205$c30e37c6@exi-reader.telstra.net> <4c0b234f$1$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net> <4c0cc11c$0$56569$c30e37c6@exi-reader.telstra.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-iX5JAou8qvtRJGr9pGcZFvkRMvCUOFc8HOeMdjsokHs3BqAOBpF/2Q9yCJsJBCC4kGsGCrxl5OgvvXS!12o+K00dao+HsY/hUUkmOxSrG4oKuJFkMfQD6Oma/a+9TUCaynj7TR48vsWKjTbIr3w= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:12404 comp.lang.fortran:26451 comp.lang.pl1:1518 Date: 2010-06-07T15:24:00+00:00 List-Id: On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 06:40:07 -0400, Peter Flass wrote: >robin wrote: >> "Martin Krischik" wrote in message news:op.vdv17504z25lew@macpro-eth1.krischik.com... >> | Am 06.06.2010, 17:19 Uhr, schrieb J. Clarke : >> | >> | > On 6/6/2010 12:25 AM, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote: >> | >> | > What do you believe to be the difference between machine code and >> | > assembler? >> | >> | 6502 Assembler: >> | >> | LDA #10 >> | >> | 6502 Machine code: >> | >> | A9 10 >> | >> | Any more silly questions? >> >> That assembler was of a much later period than the one under discussion, >> namely, the 1940s-1950s. >> >> > >If you want to talk *really* old assemblers, look at SOAP. The hardware >had no core, only drum memory, and each H/W instruction contained the >drum address of the next instruction to be executed. A big function of >the assembler was figuring out where to store the instructions on the >drum so that the next instruction was under the R/W head just as the >previous finished executing -- based on the instruction timings. Try >doing that by hand for a large program! It must be time to recall the story of Mel. I've got a copy on my website at http://home.tiac.net/~cri/2001/mel.html though I am sure that there must be other copies on the web. Richard Harter, cri@tiac.net http://home.tiac.net/~cri, http://www.varinoma.com Reality is real; words are real too. However words are not reality.