From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,6609c40f81b32989 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,9bdec20bcc7f3687 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,gid8d3408f8c3,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!weretis.net!feeder2.news.weretis.net!news.teledata-fn.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool4.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 08:43:31 +0200 From: Georg Bauhaus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.fortran Subject: Re: Why is Ada considered "too specialized" for scientific use References: <4bb9c72c$0$6990$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <4bbb3f22$0$7660$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <4bbba9b4$0$6987$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <4bbc2994$0$6992$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> Organization: Arcor NNTP-Posting-Date: 07 Apr 2010 08:43:32 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: db7792e9.newsspool4.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=]hV0DaC7h4>RLigj];iP=84IUKejV8LTFfGUoDj\6ERZQb`FAk>< X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:10877 comp.lang.fortran:24531 Date: 2010-04-07T08:43:32+02:00 List-Id: On 4/7/10 6:25 AM, J. Clarke wrote: > Look, you were whining about "MS C" not implementing a complex data type. Did I? I didn't. I remember saying that even in 2006 (from which the note in question dates) there were well enough compilers supporting C99 on Windows NT. If VC2010 doesn't support C99, as reported, then still this perceived lack would not have been a reason to dismiss C just for lack of a complex data type. And in fact, VS2005, which was available in 2006, does not have for C. VC++ does support , but enough harm has been done in assuming that writing C using a C++ compiler is a good idea. > Well Visual C++ 2008, which is the only "MS C" in current production, > most assuredly DOES implement a standards-compliant complex data type, > so I don't really understand the point of your complaint. My complaint, or observation, is that more than one researcher talking about programming languages tends to act as a show man when he or she does not really (need to) know what he or she is talking about. This creates gossip, perpetuates hearsay, and, by imitation, drives the choice of programming language for research. Obviously then, decisions to use this or that language will not be as informed as could be. Chances are that program quality suffers. I hope this observation can be shown to be wrong.