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> I disagree. I get very frustrated watching programmers who can't type
> with all ten fingers. Take a lesson and see what you gain!

What if I have to hold open a reference with one hand
while with the other hand I type faster than some
people do with both hands?  :-)

I get frustrated when I see someone who refuses to learn
an editor other than 'vi' yet has never really learned
how to use 'vi'  (Deletes twenty lines by repeating 'x'
until the line is empty, going to the next line, and
doing it again.)

> Yes, I hate the automatic capitalization in Word. That's because I'm

That can be turned on and off.  I hate it, too.

---

The MISRA C article someone cited claims that
stylistic coding standards are useless because

(a) they are ignored and

(b) the things they prevent are not failures

_BUT_

(a) it also shows that an allegedly better standard
     that allegedly _only_ prevents real failures
     is ignored far more often than the ones it was
     compared to!

(b) Standards which ensure readability and consistency
     MAY (are there any empirical studies?) prevent
     actual failures by reducing errors in comprehension
     of detail.

After fifteen years of complaining about occasional
deliberate and unjustified violations of standards,
I was horrified to read that some organization had
allegedly adopted an allegedly _good_ standard and
then violated it EVERY OTHER LINE OF CODE !!!!