From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,21960280f1d61e84 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net.POSTED!e511c328!not-for-mail From: Charles D Hixson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.9) Gecko/20061219 Iceape/1.0.7 (Debian-1.0.7-2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: How come Ada isn't more popular? References: <1169531612.200010.153120@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1169588206.234714.312650@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1169624573.534128.172610@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1169624573.534128.172610@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <4EBuh.15104$pQ3.9387@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 05:43:28 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.245.56.19 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1169876608 66.245.56.19 (Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:43:28 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:43:28 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:8619 Date: 2007-01-27T05:43:28+00:00 List-Id: kevin cline wrote: > > On Jan 23, 4:18 pm, Martin Dowie > wrote: >> kevin clinewrote: >>> 3. For the same reason that Limburger cheese isn't more popular. Most >>> programmers who have tried Ada didn't like it. What makes a programmer >>> like a new language? Usually, someone comes along and says something >>> like "Remember that program that we spent two weeks writing in C? >>> Here's a Perl implementation that I put together in three hours and >>> one-tenth the code." That's never happened with Ada. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> FUD!! >> >> http://www.stsc.hill.af.mil/crosstalk/2000/08/mccormick.html > > Yes, I've read that article. It would really be sad if Ada were not > superior to C for a toy problem in embedded control system development, > since Ada was designed specifically for that purpose. But the point > was that expressiveness drives programmers to new languages, and Ada > isn't particularly expressive. > Ada is quite expressive, but it can be very clumsy when you want to write a flexible routine. You can do it, and you can do it with much greater safety, but it takes more work. Just, for instance, look at the Ada version of: #include void main() { print ("Hello", " ", "World!"); exit(0); } (I may have gotten that wrong, my main language is Python. I'm intending to move to Ada for a particular project that I've got in mind, because I despise the way C uses pointers.)