From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,b314a3c8f7311755 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,CP1252 Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!goblin1!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed1.swip.net!nntpserver.swip.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <49877074.4090806@nowhere.com> From: nobody User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: sv, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: IBM Rational Ada References: <57Kgl.327677$Mh5.326555@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <925cad43-6435-4115-83cf-6dc9b4f20612@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <0029a4b0-d524-41cb-830c-c60fb9a35e09@p2g2000prn.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 23:15:16 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.151.10.197 X-Complaints-To: news-abuse@swip.net X-Trace: nntpserver.swip.net 1233612961 212.151.10.197 (Mon, 02 Feb 2009 23:16:01 CEST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 23:16:01 CEST Organization: A Customer of Tele2 Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:4518 Date: 2009-02-02T23:15:16+01:00 List-Id: Britt Snodgrass wrote: > On Jan 31, 3:55 am, Martin wrote: > >>On Jan 31, 3:20 am, Britt Snodgrass wrote: >> >> >>>IBM would be better served if they offered a hobbyist license for Apex >>>or switched to an open-source, support based business model. Apex was >>>great for its time but IBM has treated it as a (diminishing return) >>>cash cow for several years, ever since they bought Rational. I fear >>>that Telelogic (IBM's recent acquisition) will suffer the same fate as >>>Rational (great products, uncompetitively priced, left to fade away). >> >>Hope not...we are heavy users of Telelogic Rhapsody... >> > > > Yes, we also use Telelogic Rhapsody and DOORS and like them pretty > well. I was not happy to hear that IBM had acquired Telelogic. I am > particularly disappointed in the way IBM has treated its ClearCase > configuration management product that it acquired with the purchase of > Rational. ClearCase is architecturally brilliant and well implemented. > Its also rather cool to use once you�ve �got it�. I have seen their plans for Rhapsody for the next few years and honestly I would not be so worried if I was a user of it. It would be quite a different thing if i was using Rose or Tau. Regarding CM tools I'm a synergy user and thats where my concern is. There are no clear messages from IBM that I have seen but I can't see them keeping two products trying to compete for the same customers. I think they will either sell of one product or just kill it by raising the support cost closer to inf. or very unlikely sell one off. I'm not sure if they have any other requirement tool than Doors but as I understand they recently did a "market adaption" of the prices. At least here in Sweden. That is, they raised them. Alot. /L