From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,fef3ad775ef4b0b7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!87.106.137.111.MISMATCH!feeder1.news.weretis.net!newsfeeder.dynfx.net!weretis.net!newsfeed-fusi2.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!newsfeed-hp2.netcologne.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool2.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:44:38 +0200 From: Georg Bauhaus User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada for 1st year students References: <60e0c5f0-1e17-4add-b21e-b1ef622d5233@v13g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <01b1f1e3-02eb-4a2a-88a3-5650f114a227@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <48EE710D.7080109@obry.net> <3005ad99-2418-44e2-8bd4-8b2f1d3f18c0@m32g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3005ad99-2418-44e2-8bd4-8b2f1d3f18c0@m32g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <48ef9486$0$6599$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> Organization: Arcor NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Oct 2008 19:44:38 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 609ede0e.newsspool3.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=M_kmGF0LHKWaoembcbF;DQMcF=Q^Z^V3X4Fo<]lROoRQ8kFgTnc\616M64>ZLh>_cHTX3j]j]P0Q73bjBR X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:2316 Date: 2008-10-10T19:44:38+02:00 List-Id: amado.alves@gmail.com schrieb: > So it seems the most pedagogical tools are Microsoft Windows only > still today. These windows based tools may meet your goals best. However, other criteria for tools being *pedagogical* have been put forward. For example, see the recent complaints about IDE-students not knowing at all what a compiler is. And/or how to operate programs other than through pressing function keys or clicking menu items and buttons. The alternative implicit in this criticism may not be fashionable at first sight: just shiny magic text characters, no disney framings. As a minor compensation, the text alternative is as inexpensive as the load of MS software that MS Select is offering to universities as lure. And fore sure, defending text in a Windows world requires risk taking on the part of the teacher who needs to make old style programming an attraction. Might not be a good idea, as it associates the teacher and course with text only computers, an old language, nah, go away. -- Georg Bauhaus Y A Time Drain http://www.9toX.de