From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,691503f3d2c9213d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!news.teledata-fn.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool1.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:13:38 +0200 From: Georg Bauhaus Reply-To: rm.tsoh+bauhaus@maps.futureapps.de User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Question about circular elaboration order error (GNAT). References: <48024d11$0$19786$4d3efbfe@news.sover.net> <87skxppmlk.fsf@willow.rfc1149.net> <87od8dpi39.fsf@willow.rfc1149.net> <30ca70d5-37c7-44ef-8d84-1c9234c23cc8@w5g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <30ca70d5-37c7-44ef-8d84-1c9234c23cc8@w5g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <480455a4$0$4769$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> Organization: Arcor NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Apr 2008 09:13:40 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 17c47b34.newsspool3.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=SBRXc>gd?A:QbA1[CgMQ00McF=Q^Z^V384Fo<]lROoR1^;5]aA^R6>2fo:l0PFK\^3PCY\c7>ejV8NM:87@i8ZH;6C`Of27\n75 X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:20950 Date: 2008-04-15T09:13:40+02:00 List-Id: Adam Beneschan wrote: > On Apr 14, 1:21 pm, Robert A Duff > wrote: > >>> Btw, I never noticed the use of "dependence" vs. "dependency" >>> before. Is there a difference in English? >> I don't know. Most people say "dependency". But the Ada 83 RM used >> "dependence", and we didn't change it for Ada 95 (or 2005), >> and I've gotten used to typing that. > > I checked Merriam-Webster Online (www.m-w.com). [...] > > So I'd say that for our purpose, the two words are interchangeable, at > least in American English usage, which is what Merriam-Webster is a > dictionary of. Uhm, there is---or was---a distinction which is of some historical interest, if not helpful in rediscovering the distinguished meaning of either word. Not sure whether everyone will like Independency Day 8-) My old 1974/82 (but not my new, 2005) Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary has only this to say about "dependency": "country governed or controlled by another." The newer edition additionally explains that "dependency" now also refers to a state of unneccessary reliance on the part of the dependents. Dependency is exemplified in "dependency culture". The definition of "dependence" includes the word "need". E.g. A needs the help of X in order to survive. Both "dependence" and "dependency" are used in place of "addiction", according to OALD. Otherwise the dictionary seems to agree with M-W online. I found that "concurrence" and "occurrency" ... had a funny taste when I tried them ;) Can the widespread use of "dependency" for "dependence" be attributed to learning words in globalized technical contexts and not through a study of English? -- I hadn't been aware of this before to be sure. Thanks for the question.