From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,ab26e93e5cda5b8a X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!194.25.134.126.MISMATCH!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.belwue.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool3.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 09:39:00 +0200 From: Georg Bauhaus Reply-To: rm.tsoh+bauhaus@maps.futureapps.de User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GnatBench (from GPL edition) References: <83f3c6f9-603d-45ea-9653-bd4790f84871@e60g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <3mqiu3pdt12sirmn5dko6mjo1snr3infrh@4ax.com> <52ilu39q6mje4df8csr9odpkick389alh2@4ax.com> <8ijtu314uf1j34hc837qkgtgd4lqbr0q5l@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <47f1e695$0$4762$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> Organization: Arcor NNTP-Posting-Date: 01 Apr 2008 09:39:01 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: f5dfb4a6.newsspool3.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=SASMk2Ge1EK2jYf>V4L0gLMcF=Q^Z^V3H4Fo<]lROoRA^;5]aA^R6>BT?e;DYgePCHPCY\c7>ejVHhKZ^NYKM3TGhm@c5a:H\@I X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:20703 Date: 2008-04-01T09:39:01+02:00 List-Id: Randy Brukardt wrote: > My understanding is that to write Eclipse plugins you have to write > in Java. You could try Ada, too, because there are two Ada compilers emitting Java byte code (fairly well). Compilers for some other languages do this, too. Sun is spending money on getting Scala and Ruby running on the JVM. All languages are integrated with the Java class library then. > I understand the market pressures, but on a practical basis, I don't > understand the big deal about bloated IDEs anyway. Everything that is > worthwhile in an IDE is language and compiler-specific anyway (debuggers, > error messages, syntax, symbol browsing, project management), Itegration (like in document centric working) just in case the only integration you practically get on Windows is integratation of the Microsoft operating system with other Microsofts offerings. (Yesterday I heard that in Norway, an ISO country vote of 5 "For", 19 "Against" counts as a "For". This vote was about the planned ISO standardized office documents file formats. Microsoft keeps advertising theirs as "Office Open XML" (in this word order) ...) > so what can > this empty framework actually accomplish? In a sense, the same thing that Ada was meant to accomplish? So that there aren't so many IDEs.