From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,c1400b61b3f80c1e X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed1.uni2.dk!dfeeder1.cybercity.dk!dspool1.cybercity.dk!dreader1.cybercity.dk!not-for-mail Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:42:13 +0100 From: Thomas User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Are there noticable differences in Ada acceptance by country? References: <87d4pr6413.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> In-Reply-To: <87d4pr6413.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <47e0fc15$0$89167$157c6196@dreader1.cybercity.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: 77.212.116.206 X-Trace: 1205926933 dreader1.cybercity.dk 89167 77.212.116.206:38146 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:20481 Date: 2008-03-19T12:42:13+01:00 List-Id: Ludovic Brenta wrote: > Not many countries build jet airplanes, satellites, or nuclear power > plants. These are the countries where you're likely to find the most > Ada software engineers, because that's where Ada came from. I personally, from a beginners point of view, find it sad that this very competent language seems "stuck" in the world of satellites and nuclear power plants. It should be out there among us "hackers" and "dummies", teaching and guiding us into building more solid, secure and maintainable software. I don't believe the language itself is to blame, as it's not a bit harder or more difficult to learn than any other language. Ada needs LOTS of beginner-friendly tutorials, interesting open source projects, thriving communities and a bunch of people that understands that Ada's ability to draw in new users equals its ability to survive. If there are no new users coming in (or too few), then Ada usage will slowly dwindle and steadily be replaced by Java, C/C++ and, shiver, C#. Because you CAN build software for nuclear power plants with Java - it might not be pretty/easy/maintainable, but if the only programmers you can find in the year 2017 are doing Java, then you can be damn well sure nuclear power plants will be build using just that. :) I'm ranting/rambling now, and I'm completely OT. Sorry about that. Sincerely, /Thomas, a happy Ada beginner