From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,e0e1d3b3f7c994b8 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.glorb.com!news.unit0.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!193.252.118.146.MISMATCH!news.wanadoo.fr!news.wanadoo.fr!not-for-mail Message-ID: <47D39DC8.20002@obry.net> Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 09:20:24 +0100 From: Pascal Obry Organization: Home - http://www.obry.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada To: Maciej Sobczak Subject: Re: Robert Dewar's great article about the Strengths of Ada over other langauges in multiprocessing! References: <13t4b2kkjem20f3@corp.supernews.com> <89af8399-94fb-42b3-909d-edf3c98d32e5@n75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <89af8399-94fb-42b3-909d-edf3c98d32e5@n75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 09 Mar 2008 09:20:25 CET NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.120.154.23 X-Trace: 1205050825 news.orange.fr 871 82.120.154.23:3056 X-Complaints-To: abuse@orange.fr Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:20248 Date: 2008-03-09T09:20:25+01:00 List-Id: Maciej Sobczak a �crit : > Ada will most likely miss the "multicore revolution", unless it will > *really* focus on performance - the point is that all this multicore > hoopla revolves around performance, *exclusively*. Probably, that's why C++ code using threading, OpenMP or MPI are just a mess. Impossible to maintain because C++ hackers seems to prefer working hard 6 month for gaining 2% of performance instead of buying a new computer with more core or adding some node on a cluster. Sorry, but I've seen that, horrible mess just because hacking C++ code seems fun to many people. I prefer using Ada, even losing 10% performance initially, having a clean object oriented design (using distributed annex, and Ada tasking). Then when the application is done, just buy the new multicore-box and you get back the performance than what you loose initially. The cherry on top of the cake is that your application can be ported to a new architecture without much trouble. I've seen people spending months porting an application from one machine to another to "tweak" it as best as possible. A big lost of money when you compare the salary against the price of a new machine. Especially since now the application if full of #define and twisted code that make it just unmaintainable. I hope at some point people will understand that... All this man-power burned stupidly ! Pascal. -- --|------------------------------------------------------ --| Pascal Obry Team-Ada Member --| 45, rue Gabriel Peri - 78114 Magny Les Hameaux FRANCE --|------------------------------------------------------ --| http://www.obry.net --| "The best way to travel is by means of imagination" --| --| gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.pgp.net --recv-key C1082595