From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,46f1af367ca05806 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!wns11feed!worldnet.att.net!164.128.36.58!news.ip-plus.net!newsfeed.ip-plus.net!news.post.ch!not-for-mail From: Martin Krischik Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Why I hate Gtk+/GNOME (from the perspective of an Ada supporter) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:28:30 +0100 Organization: Swisscom IP+ (post doesn't reflect views of Swisscom) Message-ID: <47998f9e$1@news.post.ch> References: <479700d6$1@news.post.ch> <4aa2165e-b3a1-42a4-b5db-fdc39d7d67fd@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <479841ed$1@news.post.ch> <183a03c8-5379-4bfb-b311-f6e014e88719@1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com> <4798C90D.4040509@obry.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.41.146.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: atlas.ip-plus.net 1201246122 10367 194.41.146.1 (25 Jan 2008 07:28:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ip-plus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:28:42 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) In-Reply-To: <4798C90D.4040509@obry.net> X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: w03duo.pnet.ch X-Original-Trace: 25 Jan 2008 08:28:30 +0100, w03duo.pnet.ch Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:19588 Date: 2008-01-25T08:28:30+01:00 List-Id: Pascal Obry schrieb: > Brian Drummond a écrit : >> There are no suitable prebuilt binaries anywhere (I can find at least) so >> I could concentrate on GtkAda. > > What about the Gimp prebuilt Gtk+ shared libraries on Windows? I'm using > Gimp and I have yet to see it crashes. Looks like the Gtk+ port to > Windows is not in a bad shape. > GPS is also quite stable on Windows and is coming with the shared Gtk+ > libraries. Indeed I tried them once. The problem here has been described on the blog - but maybe not as clearly as I should have. And it is the same problem I faced with Solaris: When you just install GNOME from OpenSuSE 10.3 and only apply security updates then GNOME works pretty stable these days (hasn't always been that way - 0.x and 1.x was atrocious). However: I advice strictly against activating the "GNOME STABLE" [1] upgrade channel. The best what will happen to you is that smart [2] will report version conflicts and will refuse to install the mess. There worse what can happen is that smart will resolve the version conflicts with 32 bit libraries - on your 64 bit system. Leaving you with an unusable system. And downgrading is the one area where rpm based installer have not yet caught up with dep based installer. Why am I telling you all that? Well because GtkAda is tied to one specific version of Gtk+ - and the rest comes from there. Martin [1] There is a "GNOME unstable" as well - don't even what to think about what happens when you activate that one. [2] yast became unusable ever since Novell (Miguel de Icaza) took over. -- mailto://krischik@users.sourceforge.net Ada programming at: http://ada.krischik.com