From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,85b02a301688919 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!62.111.101.3.MISMATCH!news.germany.com!newsfeed-0.progon.net!progon.net!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.ip-plus.net!newsfeed.ip-plus.net!news.post.ch!not-for-mail From: Martin Krischik Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: TIOBE Programming Community Index for November 2007 Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:16:31 +0100 Organization: Swisscom IP+ (post doesn't reflect views of Swisscom) Message-ID: <472eed9f$1@news.post.ch> References: <1779892.Lp74q3fGR4@linux1.krischik.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.41.146.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: atlas.ip-plus.net 1194257827 12911 194.41.146.1 (5 Nov 2007 10:17:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ip-plus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:17:07 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) In-Reply-To: X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: w03duo.pnet.ch X-Original-Trace: 5 Nov 2007 11:17:03 +0200, w03duo.pnet.ch Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:18195 Date: 2007-11-05T11:16:31+01:00 List-Id: Stephen Leake schrieb: > Martin Krischik writes: > >> You, I don't like the index, but it is there, widely used > > What data do you have to back up the assertion that it is "widely > used"? Google for "TIOBE Programming Community Index" ;-). > As a counter point, this is the first I've heard of it. You can't be long here at comp.lang.ada - I have an article on it every 3 to 6 month. >> http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm > > It says: > > Observe that the TIOBE index is not about the best programming > language or the language in which most lines of code have been > written. > > So why should we care? Because it also says: The index can be used to check whether your programming skills are still up to date or to make a strategic decision about what programming language should be adopted when starting to build a new software system. And have a look at the Ada bashing on the definition page: http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/tpci_definition.htm This is what you also see in daily practice: Ada is hardly used for new mission-critical systems any more. Emphasis on "new". This is the problem: Right or wrong - they tell the world which language to use in future. And this is why we should care. Martin -- mailto://krischik@users.sourceforge.net Ada programming at: http://ada.krischik.com