From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,fd2f984f8ef238d1 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!r27g2000yqb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: jonathan Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Why so hard to come up with a simple embedded Ada system? Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 04:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <472ed377-b303-4da5-866d-8aafdcb7ed1f@r27g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> References: <37da1783-b355-4d43-a9a8-7f0d4ba4da9c@t13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 143.117.23.236 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1279107785 25895 127.0.0.1 (14 Jul 2010 11:43:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: r27g2000yqb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=143.117.23.236; posting-account=Jzt5lQoAAAB4PhTgRLOPGuTLd_K1LY-C User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.0.19) Gecko/2010062510 Iceweasel/3.0.6 (Debian-3.0.6-3),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:12417 Date: 2010-07-14T04:43:05-07:00 List-Id: On Jul 14, 5:55=A0am, use...@scriptoriumdesigns.com wrote: > I'll just come out and say it - for a language that was designed for > as much for embedded applications as for anything, it seems to be > maddeningly difficult to actually get Ada on a modest embedded > platform. =A0By modest I mean low-end 32 bits, no MMU. =A0ARM7 or Cortex > Mx would be my first choice. =A0I can be up and running on such a > platform with C and a tasking library in a day (Rowley Crossworks, > nice package). =A0Why can't I do the same with Ada? =A0Or rather, to avoi= d > making this about me, why can't an embedded programmer - student, > hobbyist or professional - who's heard about Ada and wants to give it > a spin, including hard-realtime concurrency, just do it? > > If Ada fans (I include myself) want to see Ada get more exposure, this > seems like not only a desirable step but a necessary one. =A0I can run C > on a thousand such boards, and I can't (AFAIK) run Ada on one. > > Maybe this is all available, and I just haven't found out where. =A0Then > that's a problem too, but I'll be happy to hear about it. > > All comments welcome. Agree completely. But if commercially supported software is too expensive for the > embedded programmer - student, > hobbyist or professional - who's heard about Ada and wants to give it > a spin, including hard-realtime concurrency (and I'ld be suprised if it were not) then x86 looks promising (intel atom, amd geode ...). I just web searched amd geode and found the wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geode_(processor) Worth thinking about .. the wikipedia article has a link to an article on how to put Linux on a Geode board. Makes sense ... along with say, I don't know, Marte-OS. And for more inspiration, http://www.circuitcellar.com/archives/viewable/212-Ramirez/index.html J.