From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FROM_NUMERIC_TLD autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,c3d0e99376a4f379 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!out04a.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!in04.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!198.186.194.251.MISMATCH!news-out.readnews.com!transit4.readnews.com!newspeer1.nwr.nac.net!bbc!news-peer-lilac.gradwell.net!not-for-mail From: "Stuart" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <1187235764.909133.180650@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <46c49e6e$1_6@news.bluewin.ch> Subject: Re: Interested about number crunching in Ada Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 10:01:49 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Message-ID: <46c56070$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net> X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: glkas0286.greenlnk.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 20.133.0.1 X-Trace: 1187341318 news.gradwell.net 640 dnews/20.133.0.1:47539 X-Complaints-To: news-abuse@gradwell.net Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:1470 Date: 2007-08-17T10:01:49+01:00 List-Id: "anon" wrote in message news:rI9xi.40141$ax1.20593@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... For the benefit of those who have stumbled across this (possibly in the Google archives), [and for the record] the following contribution from 'anon' is simply not true! > Which brings us to Ada. Ada was developed for the military by DEC > using DEC computer systems. So, DEC had at that time had the > Software Licenses and Copyright to Ada. DEC was purchase by > COMPAQ then both were purchase by HP. This means that HP owns > the Software licenses and Copyright to Ada. Now, HP pays for > the FORTRAN Software licenses to third parties for the FORTRAN > libraries. If they sell that Ada out performs FORTRAN then they can > start receiving more fees for Ada libraries license then what they are > paying for FORTRAN. Since, licensing fees is a big business, HP > wants a bigger piece of the pie. DEC did develop an excellent [IMHO] Ada-83 compiler, and it shared its front-end with the XD-Ada cross compiler. Both were hosted on VAX/VMS machines which had a strong market position in sectors such as military suppliers. DEC/Compaq/HP did not [to my knowledge] develop the Ada-83 product to Ada-95 or Ada-05. I believe you can get GNAT compilers that run on OpenVMS to get Ada-95 and Ada-05 support on these platforms. As to copyright - originally the Ada language was defined by a MIL-STD-1815, but became an ANSI then ISO/IEC standard - now ISO/IEC 8652/1995(E). Looking in the ANSI/ISO/IEC-8652:1995 - copyright is stated as belonging to Intermetrics, Inc - but it is stated that the copyright is assigned to the US Government. In the Springer LNCS 4348 "Ada 2005 Reference Manual, Language and Standard Libraries. International Standard ISO/IEC 8652/1995(E) with Technical Corrigendum 1 and Amendment 1" copyright is quite mixed. The Ada Reference Manual - Language and Standard Libraries is as I have mentioned above. Technical Corrigendum 1 is copyright the MITRE Corporation. Amendment 1 is copyright AXE Consultants, and Ada 2005 Reference Manual is copyright Ada-Europe. All give you rights to copy the document; and of course copyright has nothing to do with using the standard to develop a compiler or using the language to write a program! (This would be a confusion with patents). -- Stuart