From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,INVALID_DATE, MSGID_SHORT,REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site gymble.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!ucbvax!ucdavis!lll-crg!gymble!beth From: beth@gymble.UUCP (Beth Katz) Newsgroups: net.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada Professionalism Document Message-ID: <460@gymble.UUCP> Date: Thu, 5-Dec-85 11:08:22 EST Article-I.D.: gymble.460 Posted: Thu Dec 5 11:08:22 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 7-Dec-85 03:19:53 EST References: <8511291449.AA03140@ucbvax.berkeley.edu> <275@opus.UUCP> Reply-To: beth@gymble.UUCP (Elizabeth E. Katz) Organization: U of Maryland, Laboratory for Parallel Computation, C.P., MD List-Id: I'm not sure I want to jump into this fray, but I'm very much pro-Ada and anti-"Ada Professionalism Document". First of all, as others have mentioned, people using the Ada language should not have a separate code of ethics. I have difficulties with the professionalism movement alone. What you consider important for a software professional may be contrary to what I feel is important. Focus on ethics and certification if you must, but leave Ada and SIGAda alone. Secondly, we just don't know how Ada *should* be used. We don't have enough experience with it. We don't know which design methodologies are appropriate for particular applications. We don't know how to train people to use Ada as a software engineering language and really use the appropriate concepts that are supported by Ada. Various people in research, government, and industry are looking at these questions. Until we really know what is happening with Ada use, please don't try to "certify Ada software personnel." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Arpa: beth@mimsy.umd.edu Elizabeth E. Katz UUCP: ...!seismo!umcp-cs!beth Dept. of Computer Science CSnet: beth@umcp-cs University of Maryland Of course these opinions are my own. Valid data supporting conflicting views readily received and discussed. I'd love to discuss how you are using and measuring your use of Ada.