From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.236.30.69 with SMTP id j45mr21062740yha.23.1414428696351; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:51:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.28.117 with SMTP id 108mr19362qgy.38.1414428696329; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!peer03.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!u7no526597qaz.1!news-out.google.com!u5ni12qab.1!nntp.google.com!u7no526596qaz.1!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:51:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <05dee501-2be0-4b1d-8a52-c3fe8441ea48@googlegroups.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=104.169.187.4; posting-account=Ies7ywoAAACcdHZMiIRy0M84lcJvfxwg NNTP-Posting-Host: 104.169.187.4 References: <05dee501-2be0-4b1d-8a52-c3fe8441ea48@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <45d9025e-8d21-405a-b05d-6de62ca8f424@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: F-22 ADA Programming From: brbarkstrom@gmail.com Injection-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:51:36 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Received-Bytes: 2967 X-Received-Body-CRC: 2625455827 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:22822 Date: 2014-10-27T09:51:36-07:00 List-Id: On Monday, October 27, 2014 12:34:28 PM UTC-4, David Botton wrote: > > But maybe after David is done working on GNOGA, he'll be able to build a time machine using Ada, and then we can fix the problem. > > Won't have time, too many people will be using Ada and asking for more features for their cool new projects for me to take time to work on has been situations. > > David Botton While the discussion has some interest, I haven't seen anything more than opinion. In marketing terms, we need empirical studies of the sources of "market friction" that impedes adoption of Ada. The economics of Ada programmers and of career switching certainly seem like sensible rationales. However, maybe there's a perception that all Ada is good for is building weapons systems or heart monitors. What new business opportunities do we have to offer. Personally, I'll suggest long-term information preservation of scientific data for citizen science. Can we interest science prone individuals (a distinctive market segment that includes about 2% of the population) in building ultra-low maintenance archives that could thrive because the amount of maintenance is measured in a small number of person-hours per month, rather than daily updates that require a system administrator? Could we interest people in building bare bones systems that could collect data in an untended state? Would this kind of project be of interest to community college computer science teachers - particularly since that might increase the pool of CS people trained in Ada? What other markets might we think of that offer opportunities outside of the historical core of Ada? Bruce B.