From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,25e091afe1184988 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!news2.google.com!news.germany.com!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.ip-plus.net!newsfeed.ip-plus.net!news.post.ch!not-for-mail From: Martin Krischik Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Reference-oriented language and high-integrity software Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:44:53 +0100 Organization: Swisscom IP+ (post doesn't reflect views of Swisscom) Message-ID: <454b55e6@news.post.ch> References: <4r0rggFoug8lU1@individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.41.146.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: atlas.ip-plus.net 1162565095 16848 194.41.146.1 (3 Nov 2006 14:44:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ip-plus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 14:44:55 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) In-Reply-To: <4r0rggFoug8lU1@individual.net> X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: w01iwt.pnet.ch X-Original-Trace: 3 Nov 2006 15:44:54 +0200, w01iwt.pnet.ch Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:7359 Date: 2006-11-03T15:44:53+01:00 List-Id: Peter Amey schrieb: > > > Maciej Sobczak wrote: > > [snip] > >> >> And last but not least, how does the JB's statement stand in front of >> things like RealTime Java or even HIJA (High-Integrity Java)? >> > > The answer to this one is, I think, a bit easier. Neither RealTime Java > nor HIJA can reasonably be described as Java. The last time I looked, > both required special compilers; were designed to produce native machine > code not an interpreted J code; allocated objects on the stack rather > than heap; and had no garbage collection. The restrictions mean that > you cannot use any of the standard libraries and don't get platform > portable code; the two primary attraction of Java in the first place. > What you do have is two new languages that just happen to have a > Java-like syntax. The modifications required to give these new > languages their real-time and high integrity credentials are precisely > aligned with John Barnes's objections to them. So the only advantage they have is the use of a Marketing-Buzz-Word - or better the combination of two of them ("Java" + XXX). Martin