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From: billwolf@hubcap.clemson.edu (William Thomas Wolfe,2847,)
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Subject: Re: comp.sw.components & newsgroup voting
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Date: 24 Feb 89 02:41:18 GMT
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>From article <3177@ficc.uu.net>, by jeffd@ficc.uu.net (jeff daiell):
> Casting a vote in someone's name w/o that individual's permission 
> is *extremely* unethical --- and startlingly presumptuous.  [...] 
> Is there a way to preclude such permissionless autovoting on the net?

    Local vn documentation states that if there is general agreement
    among the users of a mailing list that a newsgroup should be created, 
    then the mailing list can be counted as a block of YES votes, en masse.  

    As a practical matter, I have no intention of enduring hate mail from
    someone who objects violently enough.  Thus, the plan was to distribute
    a mailing list article saying that we were going for a newsgroup (as if
    they weren't already going to read the same declarations in comp.lang.ada
    and comp.software-eng), and to send e-mail if there are violent objections.

    As another practical matter, even if I didn't agree to drop the YES vote
    of anyone who objected, they could still submit a NO vote and at least
    neutralize the YES.

    The comp.sw.components Mailing List is presently 96 members strong,
    and a grand total of 2 have so far stated that they want to be on
    the mailing list but would not presently support a newsgroup.  They
    are more than neutralized by 3 people who voted in favor of the
    newsgroup but did not want to be on the mailing list. 

    Therefore, I think this essentially amounts to a tempest in a teapot, 
    and I do anticipate that the comp.sw.components newsgroup will become
    a reality by year-end.


    Bill Wolfe, wtwolfe@hubcap.clemson.edu
    comp.sw.components Mailing List administrator