From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,79ea565763c599df X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-10-10 06:44:16 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: dennison@telepath.com (Ted Dennison) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: PDA Ada Date: 10 Oct 2002 06:44:16 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: <4519e058.0210100544.2b15059b@posting.google.com> References: <3DA4E4A8.5C1DEAE0@adaworks.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.115.221.98 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1034257456 19827 127.0.0.1 (10 Oct 2002 13:44:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Oct 2002 13:44:16 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:29656 Date: 2002-10-10T13:44:16+00:00 List-Id: Richard Riehle wrote in message news:<3DA4E4A8.5C1DEAE0@adaworks.com>... > Does anyone know if there is any on-going effort to > create an Ada compiler for PDA's. I've never heard of one. > We are going to > miss a huge market opportunity if we fail to be ready > for this burgeoning part of the embedded marketplace. PDA's may sell a lot of units, but that doesn't mean their compiler market is huge. > I fear no one in the compiler publishing community takes > PDA's seriously because there are no customers. Possibly. A collegue of mine came in here a few years back with a similar argument about VenturCOM's RTX (realtime extensions for Windows). My personal opinion is that we should have siezed the oppertunity to port Gnat to it ourselves. We had no compunction about doing that with Fortran (which we couldn't do without, due to large amounts of legacy code). C++ in RTX is turning out to be 10 times the nightmare I had feared. Realisticly, its up to compiler companies to decide for themselves that there's a profitable niche open or them in a marginal market like PDAs, DSPs, RTX, etc. If they don't, but motivated users ask for it, one would think it quite reasonable for the vendor to expect said motivated users to pony up at least some of the deveolpment costs. Or of course the users could just do it themselves. It looks like it would be doable. There appears to be a Palm version of GCC. The processor looks like a 68K variant, which has been known to support full Ada compilers in the past.