From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,da46977c58c329df X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-01-31 07:14:13 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: dennison@telepath.com (Ted Dennison) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada's Slide To Oblivion ... Date: 31 Jan 2002 07:14:11 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: <4519e058.0201310714.650888e1@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.115.221.98 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1012490053 29829 127.0.0.1 (31 Jan 2002 15:14:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 31 Jan 2002 15:14:13 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:19421 Date: 2002-01-31T15:14:13+00:00 List-Id: "Marin David Condic" wrote in message news:... > An interesting article. One could argue about the accuracy of the survey, > but it probably isn't that far off from reality. The only thing I found completely wrong was the assertion that you can't call an Ada compiler "Ada" without going through validation or the copyright holder to the term will come after you. The DoD isn't enforcing that copyright anymore. It is the Ada community that demands validation, not any one entity. But that would probably have been tougher to explain properly. > The good news is that if people are writing thoughtful articles like this > and observing that Ada really does have benefits (despite lack of use) maybe > it might generate some renewed interest. The fact that they're writing about > it at all is a sign that Ada isn't a non-issue. IOW, "I don't care what they > say about Ada as long as they capitalize its name right!" :-) I really think Ada 83 was just *waaaaay* ahead of its time. Back in the 80's and early 90's you'd quite often hear people seriously argue *against* type checking. These days that's pretty rare (see some of Eric Raymond's writings, if you want a trip back in that particular way-back machine). Now that folks are using Java and C++ regularly and can see for themselves the benifits to compile-time checking and object-oriented design, suddenly Ada doesn't look so bad any more. -- T.E.D. Home - mailto:dennison@telepath.com (Yahoo: Ted_Dennison) Homepage - http://www.telepath.com/dennison/Ted/TED.html