From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham
	autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4
X-Google-Thread: 103376,a1918ac60ddc162a
X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit
Path: 
 g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.karotte.org!uucp.gnuu.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!news.arcor.de!not-for-mail
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:29:38 +0200
From: Georg Bauhaus <bauhaus@futureapps.de>
Organization: elsewhere
User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Macintosh/20060530)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada
Subject: Re: embedded hardware for Ada
References: <1152113040.757928.303260@l70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
 <4h4kj1F1pmds0U1@individual.net>
 <1152796520.784335.127880@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
 <1su05lfut4.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de>
In-Reply-To: <1su05lfut4.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID: <44b7b809$0$6683$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Jul 2006 17:28:10 MEST
NNTP-Posting-Host: 30c45856.newsread4.arcor-online.net
X-Trace: 
 DXC=eng?AY8;jfXMYeRE0Pb_HU:ejgIfPPldTjW\KbG]kaMX^ZX8m\4PXSP5;1_l>RP6lX=0F65HQV8iV]1kP1HEFIDZ
X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de
Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:5695
Date: 2006-07-14T17:28:10+02:00
List-Id: <comp.lang.ada>

M E Leypold wrote:
> "Gerd" <GerdM.O@t-online.de> writes:
> 
>> Peter Amey schrieb:


>>> http://www.praxis-his.com/sparkada/pdfs/ada_uml_and_c.pdf
>>>
>>> Using these techniques pretty much makes /any/ hardware programmable in Ada.
>>>
>> I'm not sure whether this would be an solution.
>>
>> - We have to use certified compilers. An Ada to C with some C compiler
>> would rarly fit.

I think Markus is right; in particular, I'm certain you will
get a very competent answer from the makers of the AdaMagic
front end as to whether the generated C is suitable for
proving software properties. Also about whether/how an Ada
tool chain can "see through" the C code (if via C's #line,
or more.)

>> - I expect an Ada-aware environment to be able to handle even
>> Ada-tasks. I'm not sure that Ada-to-C translated code would work fine
>> for this in an environment designed only for C-programming.

It's worth a inquiry.

> How do you think about the feasability of starting from the other end:
> Look for supported and certified compilers / development systems, ask
> the compiler vendor for supported HW and evaluate wether the suggested
> HW would fit your problem? I think the vendor should know which are
> the usual and not so usual targets of their compiler and should be
> willing to point you into the right direction. 
> 
> 
> Regards -- Markus