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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:50:01 +0200
From: Georg Bauhaus <bauhaus@futureapps.de>
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M E Leypold wrote:

> IMHO if Florist and GTkAda go pure GPL that will hurt Ada like nothing
> before. I'd wish that the community here (which has some interest in
> advocating Ada over other languages, say Java or FORTRAN (pardon,
> thats Fortran today ... :-)) would have the ability to see that.

It might not be necessary to see conditional futures in the presence
of GMGPL releases, unsupported as they may be. It is also permitted
to copy ideas from GPL software.

I'm not sure whether growing Ada business cares about public
availability of Ada stuff without GPL restrictions, about portability,
about the Ada mission etc when living in a niche seems just fine.
Don't know whether market actors will ever see the coexistence
of collaboration and competition as a possibility that helps
everyone: imagine vendors working on portable Ada libraries, and still
getting payed for compilers, IDEs, and support.

Anyway, among those who see the library issues that low budget shops
have are, for example, MinGW, Debian GNAT, or gnuada.sf.net.
Some libraries are offered with support at a moderate price
(PragmAda is among these IIRC, as is CLAW).


-- Georg