From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,afb4d45672b1e262 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!news4.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed01.chello.at!newsfeed.arcor.de!news.arcor.de!not-for-mail Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:18:35 +0200 From: Georg Bauhaus User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Making money on open source, if not by selling _support_, then how? References: <7NOdne-iYtWmIafZnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@megapath.net> <292bf$443bb4e4$45491254$20549@KNOLOGY.NET> <1oc8e78n8ow5e.1mhfktiyo0wur$.dlg@40tude.net> <1144841001.8883.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> <443d348c$0$11063$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <1144878978.9392.89.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <443e79f7$0$18273$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net> Organization: Arcor NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Apr 2006 18:19:07 MEST NNTP-Posting-Host: ace5086b.newsread2.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC==N6ioCQci_cTE46CRO0njmQ5U85hF6f;djW\KbG]kaMhAV6U:Z=fE=o2bUi[E;gBPghP3YJKgE\jlPGW;=4[m^h`752lIbgoeil X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:3817 Date: 2006-04-13T18:19:07+02:00 List-Id: Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >> Need is measurable: Someone seeing a carpenter saying, "I need >> a cupboard" is certainly measurable. > > It is not the data one needs to open a furniture store. I think that all of todays furniture stores are mostly in the hands of heirs. So lets not discuss furniture, but software. I said that, on the whole, there is no point in Producer(i) trying to hog all potential orders in a market, if you ponder this a bit. In fact, many western economies do have rules that should avoid the effect of P(i).gets(every order) for just one i. It's just that Microsoft manages to circumvent the application of the rules. > Economy does not > function this way. Well who said economy functions this or that way? (I've made a claim that many people in the software market behave in certain ways, and that this has certain effects. No "economy" in sight.) In fact, no one knows anything about how economy works, really. Although certainly personal acquaintance with those who can open doors is a crucial factor in most kinds of business. >> Paying customers are >> measurable, too, count them, and sum the paid bills. > > You have to get paying customers first. Do I? > I just don't believe in any model based on ideological or religious > imperative. Then let's drop your ideology contribution from the discussion, o.K.? >> Ask people about the features and misfeatures of Ada. >> What is a good way to change the perception of Ada? > There is no good way, because Ada is a committee language (which is > *good*), a relic of the epoch, when quality was an issue. It is certainly an advantage if you have something to say about Ada to potential customers who ask you about Ada. For example, "we have had to write some concurrent code doing such and such. It turned out Ada's concurrency features worked nicely. The implementation is correct, efficient, and we had it finished almost in time." Can you say that about Ada?