From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,2c7b0b777188b7c4 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!news.glorb.com!ecngs!feeder.ecngs.de!news.germany.com!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!news.arcor.de!not-for-mail Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:02:29 +0200 From: Georg Bauhaus User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20051002) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GNAT GPL Edition Maintenance and Upgrades References: <1128499462.850353.146890@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <87ek6zom2h.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <87ek697ga5.fsf@willow.rfc1149.net> <435e99ee$0$23939$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net> <1130321538.366226.26460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1130321538.366226.26460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <4360b346$0$22526$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> Organization: Arcor NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Oct 2005 13:00:22 MEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 7439a172.newsread4.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC==A1LC=YQ8\]XNWN:S=bT X-Complaints-To: abuse@arcor.de Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:5986 Date: 2005-10-27T13:00:22+02:00 List-Id: Steve Whalen wrote: > AdaCore _has_ made a fundamental change. They > are now doing exactly what they said they would _not_ do many many > times starting in 1994. If you weren't reading comp.lang.ada and > following GNAT back then, please use Google groups and go back and read > what the ACT/AdaCore people were saying back then. They took great > pains to explain that exactly what they are now doing would be "bad". "One of the guarantees that we make to customers right now is that they can use GNAT libraries without any concern about acquiring problematic licensing conditions that would apply to their generated programs. This is of course achieved in our case by use of the GNAT modified GPL (GMGPL). Any license that is at least this non-restrictive is fine with us. "... Robert Dewar Ada Core Technologies" I can't find statements that Ada Core is/was commited to releasing only GMGPL packages of their software. I do remember reading that they would continue to contribute their sources to the FSF tree. > The GMGPL is NOT the same as GPL. The GMGPL is a modification of the GPL, using the same licensing text. In this sense, GMGPL is not a separate license. > You seem to imply that they are > equivalent when they are not. Whether you consider GPL and GMGPL to be equivalent in effect is a different question (and one that matters). For sure I don't consider the exception to be meaningless. Certainly one effect of the GMGPL exception is that you can distribute closed-source programs, (unless you use a software component that uses some other license with its own terms). > Also, the FSF CVS repository is NOT the same as an AdaCore public > release of a GMGPL version of GNAT. Yes. In fact, the (most welcome) gcc version 3.4.5 20050524 (prerelease) for GNAT GPL 2005 (20050614) has bugs that the FSF GNAT doesn't have, and vice versa. > The FSF CVS tree is NOT equivalent because "we" have to compile usable > binaries on whichever platform we want to use the Ada compiler on, You don't have to compile GNAT yourself if you are using Windows, or GNU/Linux (or Solaris, I believe), or Mac OS X. That should cover a number of non-embedded platforms, don't you think? In fact, Debian/GNU Linux has an integrated set of additional libraries for use with GNAT.